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  • dmlarge
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    #81
    After the first 5 rounds I had it 3-2 Maidana. The last 7 rounds I had it 6-1 Mayweather. 116-112 Mayweather.

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    • Syf
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      #82
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
      I give him a whole lot of credit. Both before the fight and after the fight. The fight played out EXACTLY like I expected and I was one of the only non-Maidana fans who said Maidana would be a tough test for Floyd.

      Maidana get's a lot of credit from me and will go down as giving Mayweather one of his toughest ever fights.

      But he lost and the vast majority are in agreement with that.
      Sure, Floyd officially got a W. I dont think its even possible to beat Floyd by decision, and I've felt this way for a while. If its at all competitive, Floyd will get the nod. Too much Money is invested in that man.

      Boxing, and judging fights, often times boils down to being a very subjective experience. In a context like that, in a close fight, whoever the "established" guy is, that has the vehicle for guiding public perception (Shostats, unbalanced highlights, commentators) on his side.. will of course be viewed as the winner by a majority of people. Its to be expected.

      Im not mad at anyone that picks Floyd winning close... I just have to go against the grain based on my own convictions and perception. Wont be the last time.

      Originally posted by DeadLikeMe
      If you've watched three boxing matches in your life you can figure out that body punching counts for less. I don't agree with it and even the scoring criteria disagrees with it, but it is what it is. All other things equal, if one fighter landed 200 punches to the head and 5 to the body, while the other landed 5 to the head and 200 to the body. Is the fight a draw?
      It would depend how authoritative and damaging the punches of either guy appears. There is no such thing as "all other things equal" punch for punch , so I reject that premise wholesale.

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      • IronDanHamza
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        #83
        Originally posted by Syf
        Sure, Floyd officially got a W. I dont think its even possible to beat Floyd by decision, and I've felt this way for a while. If its at all competitive, Floyd will get the nod. Too much Money is invested in that man.

        Boxing, and judging fights, often times boils down to being a very subjective experience. In a context like that, in a close fight, whoever the "established" guy is, that has the vehicle for guiding public perception (Shostats, unbalanced highlights, commentators) on his side.. will of course be viewed as the winner by a majority of people. Its to be expected.

        Im not mad at anyone that picks Floyd winning close... I just have to go against the grain based on my own convictions and perception. Wont be the last time.
        They can. Well I believe they can.

        Maidana didn't do enough to get the decision in this fight that's why he didn't get it.

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          #84
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by Rudiamonds View Post
          Where was the clean flush punches ??????.

          [QUOTE=Berry Picker;14511973]Take your pick. I'm sure there are plenty more under the hat.



          ^^^^^ Excellente reply! ^^^^^^^

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            #85
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            Originally Posted by BIGBOXINGFAN View Post
            Was Floyd crying to the ref to tell Maidana to stop being aggressive or to stop hitting behind the head and balls? Just asking.....

            Originally posted by Berry Picker
            He was crying about being socked in the face. But heres the funny thing, not once did Maidana look to the ref to save him when floyd used his elbows, shoulders or holding his arm, he just fought back.
            That's the thing... Floydie ALWAYS whines about any and everything. Maidana rarely ever complains. Only one time comes to mind right off... when he got on Joe 'I'm Bought & Paid For' Cortez for constantly breaking it up when he could have finished Khan.

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              #86
              Originally posted by Intelligent
              Get your wack ass outta here! You are the same pussie who was crying Maidana was a cherry pick now you are dyck riding him? He loss dog face it... 46-0! Floyd clearly won 6-12 and 2,3, and possibly round 5.So the fight was 8-4 for Floyd 7-5 if you are being real generous.

              At the end of the day you were also sucking Canelo's dyck! 46-0 deal with it
              Change your moniker to something more relevant... like Jurr-Cough Bwaaaaay.

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              • LoadedWraps
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                #87
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                They can. Well I believe they can.

                Maidana didn't do enough to get the decision in this fight that's why he didn't get it.
                Enough of us scored it a draw and the other way for there to be a discussion about it, and a rematch.

                Bias will be one way and the other but the judges are awlays to be suspected and the commentators are rarely unbaised either, and though it wouldn't matter to a true boxing fan who studies fights, it will sway the opinion of the media and the casual fans.

                Plus, there is more than one way to score a fight, as we all know certain people favor pressure over all else, some will score the fighter who landed more moving backward than the one who landed less coming forward, and that's why we have different scorecards.

                I believe in ring generalship playing a huge part of scoring. It's not as simple as who landed more shots. When were they landed, what was going on, what did those shots mean? A landed punch is always a point but from there it really depends on much more than that, or it's irresponsible scoring.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by LoadedWraps
                  Enough of us scored it a draw and the other way for there to be a discussion about it, and a rematch.

                  Bias will be one way and the other but the judges are awlays to be suspected and the commentators are rarely unbaised either, and though it wouldn't matter to a true boxing fan who studies fights, it will sway the opinion of the media and the casual fans.

                  Plus, there is more than one way to score a fight, as we all know certain people favor pressure over all else, some will score the fighter who landed more moving backward than the one who landed less coming forward, and that's why we have different scorecards.

                  I believe in ring generalship playing a huge part of scoring. It's not as simple as who landed more shots. When were they landed, what was going on, what did those shots mean? A landed punch is always a point but from there it really depends on much more than that, or it's irresponsible scoring.
                  Only 8% scored it the other way and 10% scored it a draw. Over 80% had Mayweather winning.

                  Rematch isn't the worst option but it doesn't really warrant one.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                    Only 8% scored it the other way and 10% scored it a draw. Over 80% had Mayweather winning.

                    Rematch isn't the worst option but it doesn't really warrant one.
                    I just read somewhere that 18% of the media disagrees, more than usual for a Floyd fight iirc.

                    I think losing to Floyd 115-113 more than warrants a rematch on it's own, especially if many people don't have a problem with a draw score.

                    I don't see why some people are acting like it needs to be a Manny/Bradley I type of controversy for it to warrant a rematch, I know many people will roll their eyes at this, but there really isn't anyone out there who would give more problems to floyd, porter/thurman is laughable, and manny is a stylistic gift for Floyd.


                    If you didn't see a close, exciting, fight that you would want to see more of, I just don't know what to say.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by LoadedWraps
                      I just read somewhere that 18% of the media disagrees, more than usual for a Floyd fight iirc.

                      I think losing to Floyd 115-113 more than warrants a rematch on it's own, especially if many people don't have a problem with a draw score.

                      I don't see why some people are acting like it needs to be a Manny/Bradley I type of controversy for it to warrant a rematch, I know many people will roll their eyes at this, but there really isn't anyone out there who would give more problems to floyd, porter/thurman is laughable, and manny is a stylistic gift for Floyd.


                      If you didn't see a close, exciting, fight that you would want to see more of, I just don't know what to say.
                      Yeah like I just said 8% scored it for Maidana and 10% scored it a draw. 18%.

                      82% scored it for Floyd.

                      I don't think a fight where only 8% scored it for the loser warrants a rematch.

                      Cool if they do because it will be a competitive fight again but I don't think one is needed.

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