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  • #41
    Originally posted by R_Walken View Post
    Ok maybe evidence was the wrong word maybe inuendo would work better because there hasn't been a smoking gun like a failed test but ......


    - Roach admiring he didn't know what Ariza put in his shakes
    - Working with Fortune & Ariza
    - previous Teddy Atlas Comments
    - Refusing to take the test in Floyd fight when purse was 50/50
    -Never tested untill after KO from a suspected Ped user.
    - Increase of 40 % of his body mass from when he started, with out losing speed
    Unheard of no other previous boxer has ever done and will likely ever do again

    That's just from the top of my head I'm sure if I though about it I could come up with more.
    The Bolded is where your entire argument fell apart.

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    • #42
      I remember when Bernard was everyone's hero on here when he was "dissing" Floyd. Guess that's what happens when you hitch your opinion on to the backs of others instead of standing on your own two, even if it's an unpopular stance.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Renal Colic View Post
        Exactly, he would have suffered numerous injuries - every boxer does. An injury, even minor, heals much, much slower in a 50-year-old than in a 20-year-old - probably 2 or 3 times slower. You would think at his age he would spend so much time recovering from injuries and muscle soreness from weight training that he would never have time to train in the ring.

        The overwhelming majority of athletes the world over would love their careers to go on to 50. Many would be willing to do whatever it takes to get there (diet, exercise, etc.) Why is Hopkins the one that can manage it when almost no one else can?
        Perhaps, he warms up his body thoroughly before workouts, his body is able to recover quicker than most, he probably undergoes intense massage therapy sessions afterwards, he replenishes his body with the proper nutrients, gives his body the proper rest, he's an anomaly who is able to accomplish what most others can't, etc., etc.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Shambrolic View Post
          Funny when it came to Love everyone said he was on PEDs and was using the diuretic as a masking agent. You can not find smelling salts or any inhalants or anything you breath in such as Marijuana right away in a drug test, it comes weeks after, even if a hair test was done. Trust me I done hair drug test before, where I smoked weed and submitted hair a week later and passed.

          Also lets be clear, Rios was coming up in weight, not down so it's pretty much a lame excuse. You can't fight at your last fight at 140, make weight, lose then get an even bigger fight and not take it serious enough to lose weight which should be easier because you moved up.

          Maidana was getting pretty ****ed up in those championship rounds, his stamina kept fluctuating through out the fight. Broner is an idiot and never goes to the body and gets comfortable instead of putting down all stops. I will never be a fan of someone in a sport and never take it seriously.
          Apologies I thought you said he gave him something to ingest not inhale, that's why I talking about the test. If he gave him something to inhale it didn't affect Maidanas eyes when he wiped them with the same napkin so I dunno what that could have been. As far as I know anything with strong vapors that can help you breath would also sting the **** out of your eyes if it was rubbed in them, especially when sweaty.

          Yes, Love did get a lot crap for his diuretic but that was more because Floyd claimed to be on a crusade to clean up boxing and he couldn't even clean up his own stable. I don't think Love was juicing, just couldn't make the weight. Mickey Bey was definitely up to something as he had elevated testosterone levels. Even recently, Floyd suspended two fighters for testing positive for smoking weed and I'm not sure he did the same to Love or Bey. What the logic is behind that is unclear to me.

          In regards to Rios. He was always big for 140, maybe he figured at 147 he didn't have to worry too much about weight but was too lackadaisical. Maybe he felt he needed more power and added too much muscle, there's really no way to tell.

          The only way to keep the sport clean as possible is to have every fighter on 365 OST. This fake OST fighters do is complete bull**** and still easily worked around. Even 365 testing can be fooled. Look at cycling, insiders were saying for years everyone needs to do it to be able to compete. Until then assume every fighter is dirty.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
            I remember when Bernard was everyone's hero on here when he was "dissing" Floyd. Guess that's what happens when you hitch your opinion on to the backs of others instead of standing on your own two, even if it's an unpopular stance.
            They ride the wagon until B questions Pacquiao's diminishing power, then they all hop off wondering why the wagon hit a bump so hard...




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            • #46
              Originally posted by ßringer View Post
              Hopkins, of all people, should understand that as you age and change your style your knockouts are typically a casualty of that. One upon a time he was a monster ****ing middleweight who tore dudes up and broke them down physically, then he changed his style and became more defensive minded in his 30s and rarely ever knocked anybody out ever again.

              Same is true with Pacquiao. He doesn't fight to wreck dudes anymore, he fights to win decisions. Not to mention the fact that, since moving up, Pacquiao has fought a lot of guys with really tough chins and high durability : Mosley, Margarito, Bradley. Nobody is knocking those dudes out. Ever.

              Hopkins is being a bitter **** here who is only talking **** about Pacquiao because of his association with Golden Boy. I'm disappointed as a fan of his.
              Originally posted by ßringer View Post
              You're wrong. It's not jealousy, it's just typical bull**** being spouted by a guy who is promoted by the rival company of another guy who is among the most popular in the sport.

              I expect better from Hopkins. He used to be the posterboy for the anti-establishment in boxing and routinely rallied against the idea of promoters, calling them all scumbags and crooks.

              Now he's one of them.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Opinionated View Post
                Another guilty brotha projecting his guilt on other fighters

                I love it

                Pascal got hopkin soo heated

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                • #48
                  people could easily point to hopkins and raise su****ions too. Not a great idea for someone like him to to start raising PED su****ions (unless he is trying to butter up floyd)

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                  • #49
                    PED usage would be the last topic I would bring up if I'm associated with a guy with 3 failed tests. Hehe...

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by rav3n View Post
                      pretty rich coming from hopkins as he refuses to do the extra testing.
                      u cant ask for extra drug test at a press conference it has to be done in negotiations

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