The Greatness of Wladimir Klitschko

[bojangles1987]

Those fighters would never even get a title shot in today's division. Just too small.

Tomasz ****ing Adamek is a top 10 HW.

Joe Louis is too small but Tomasz Adamek isn't?

I swear so many people in this thread don't know anything about the fighters they mention except their names.

[bojangles1987]

If Wladimir hit Frazier flush, he would not get up like he did against 210 lb. 'Big' George Foreman.

Joe Frazier weighed around 210. Foreman was 220-230 in his prime.

[Boxing Goat]

Joe Frazier weighed around 210. Foreman was 220-230 in his prime.

Education time. I was exaggerating for effect but here's the real numbers.

1973-01-22 : George Foreman 217½ lbs beat Joe Frazier 214 lbs by TKO at 2:26 in round 2 of 15

Also, if you want to check stats, Foreman is only 6'3" and Adamek is 6'1" and commonly weighs more as a heavyweight than Foreman and Frazier did in the 70's.

[Boxing Goat]

Tomasz ****ing Adamek is a top 10 HW.

Joe Louis is too small but Tomasz Adamek isn't?

I swear so many people in this thread don't know anything about the fighters they mention except their names.

Joe Louis was under 200 lbs in his prime and as you see, Adamak wasn't even competitive with Vitali when he did get his shot based on his light heavy and cruiserweight accomplishments.

Vitali would so utterly have abused Joe Louis, it would probably be called a crime.

[Suckmedry]

Those fighters would never even get a title shot in today's division. Just too small.

Yeah, those guys certainly don't match up to the Leapai's of the world

[VG_Addict]

You also say HWs are more athletic. Yeah, Leapai, Povetkin, and Arreola are real athletic.

[Boxing Goat]

You also say HWs are more athletic. Yeah, Leapai, Povetkin, and Arreola are real athletic.

I didn't say that but I would say that Povetkin is very athletic and skilled. The guy knows how to throw combinations with the best of them. He's got a gold medal for a reason.

[VG_Addict]

I didn't say that but I would say that Povetkin is very athletic and skilled. The guy knows how to throw combinations with the best of them. He's got a gold medal for a reason.

He's so skilled he went life and death with Marco Huck.

[Boxing Goat]

Yeah, those guys certainly don't match up to the Leapai's of the world

Not size-wize they don't

[Suckmedry]

I didn't say that but I would say that Povetkin is very athletic and skilled. The guy knows how to throw combinations with the best of them. He's got a gold medal for a reason.

So did Joe Frazier. Oh but I forgot heavyweights of the past were unathletic, especially Frazier.

So where does the cut off begin where boxing somehow "evolved" as you guys love to say?