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The Greatness of Wladimir Klitschko
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Originally posted by BattlingNelson View PostLet me ask why that is so important? Its not a measuringstick for greatness ar all. At least not without mentioning what version of those HOF'ers they fought. Take Lummox for instance. How much does it count that he beat a shot to **** Tyson? Or Holmes beating the corpse of Ali?
Who is to say that beating a faded version of an ATG is better than beating a very good prime fighter? How can you measure that?
Resume is THE most important criteria for determining how great a fighter is. Anyone can look good fighting bums. Fighting top opponents is the best way of determining a fighter's skills.
Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, lists Holmes's win over Ali to be one of his best wins, or even a good win. I honestly don't know why you even brought that up.
Lewis has a better resume than Wlad. His win over Holyfield alone is better than any of Wlad's wins.Last edited by VG_Addict; 05-21-2014, 11:53 AM.
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Originally posted by LacedUp View PostWhy am I grasping at straws?
the guy was one of the greatest light heavyweight champions of all time.
Just because you don't know him, doesn't mean i'm grasping at straws. He's a better win than any win Wlad has on his resume.
I like how you completely ducked my post about Fraziers career too.
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Originally posted by VG_Addict View PostDid you seriously just say that beating ATGs/HOFers isn't a measuring stick for greatness?
Resume is THE most important criteria for determining how great a fighter is. Anyone can look good fighting bums. Fighting top opponents is the best way of determining a fighter's skills.
Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, lists Holmes's win over Ali to be one of his best wins, or even a good win. I honestly don't know why you even brought that up.
Lewis has a better resume than Wlad. His win over Holyfield alone is better than any of Wlad's wins.
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Originally posted by Freedom2014Holyfield was past his prime.
And then we have this little detail that Lewis most probably also retired in order to avoid giving Wladimir a fight.
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Originally posted by Weltz View PostAnd Tyson was a shell of his former self. Many regard Tyson as Lewis' defining win sealing his ATG status.
And then we have this little detail that Lewis most probably also retired to avoid giving Wladimir a fight.
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