The Greatness of Wladimir Klitschko

[Weltschmerz]

Should Haye be in the HOF this year or next? I see no reason to wait.

Don't care about Haye. But his speed, athleticism and power would give anybody fits, down history. The HW champs of the past were SLOW. Except Ali. I mean REAL HWs. Not Floyd pattersons, etc.

[GeneralZod]

Don't care about Haye. But his speed, athleticism and power would give anybody fits, down history. The HW champs of the past were SLOW. Except Ali. I mean REAL HWs. Not Floyd pattersons, etc.

so would Brewster kill Patterson or just comatose him? For real, on the real he could've been the next Rid**** Bowe. But instead he's just Foreman level.

[Weltschmerz]

so would Brewster kill Patterson or just comatose him? For real, on the real he could've been the next Rid**** Bowe. But instead he's just Foreman level.

It's speculation. It just sounds ridiculous when you nostalgics/ Klitschko haters need to ridicule Wladimir that he fights bum after bum, when your heroes of the past did just that, in fact, even worse. Hypocrisy.

[GeneralZod]

It's speculation. It just sounds ridiculous when you nostalgics/ Klitschko haters need to ridicule Wladimir that he fights bum after bum, when your heroes of the past did just that, in fact, even worse. Hypocrisy.

**** them Weltzie. Me and Anorak know the deal.
P4P kings.

[Weltschmerz]

The speculation by notorious trolls hovering this thread that todays HW era is weak is beyond laughable.

Champions don't become champions out of nothing, the title is not handed to them for free. Today's HW division is strong.

I know you nostalgics wearing rose tainted glasses are not comfortable with the fact that the two headed dragon that is the HW champion is from an Eastern European country most Americans couldn't locate on the world map. It buggers them. A lot.

Boxing fans claim the Larry Holmes, Joe Louis, Tyson, or even when Lewis era was weak. Louis had his 'bum of the month club', remember? Lennox only became truly acknowledged as an ATG after he knocked out a much faded Tyson. Point being, every champ down history fought their share of 'bums'. The Klitschko's being no different. Doesn't mean this era is particularly weak compared to other eras.

The Klitschko's are dominating in their own fashion, just as past greats like Ali, Holmes, Louis, Jack Johnson, Tyson, etc. dominated in their own fashion. Each champion has his own way of dominating his era.

Boxing is never in a weak era. The best are always the best.

[LacedUp]

It's speculation. It just sounds ridiculous when you nostalgics/ Klitschko haters need to ridicule Wladimir that he fights bum after bum, when your heroes of the past did just that, in fact, even worse. Hypocrisy.

Yeah especially Ali, right?

The Listons, Fraziers, Foremans, Lyles, Nortons, Holmes, Shavers of the world are nothing compared to the might of Wach, Pianeta, Leapai and Mormecks of the world.

To think Ali bothered to fight some of these guys multiple times the guy is a joke.

[LacedUp]

The speculation by notorious trolls hovering this thread that todays HW era is weak is beyond laughable.

Champions don't become champions out of nothing, the title is not handed to them for free. Today's HW division is strong.

I know you nostalgics wearing rose tainted glasses are not comfortable with the fact that the two headed dragon that is the HW champion is from an Eastern European country most Americans couldn't locate on the world map. It buggers them. A lot.

Boxing fans claim the Larry Holmes, Joe Louis, Tyson, or even when Lewis era was weak. Louis had his 'bum of the month club', remember? Lennox only became truly acknowledged as an ATG after he knocked out a much faded Tyson. Point being, every champ down history fought their share of 'bums'. The Klitschko's being no different. Doesn't mean this era is particularly weak compared to other eras.

The Klitschko's are dominating in their own fashion, just as past greats like Ali, Holmes, Louis, Jack Johnson, Tyson, etc. dominated in their own fashion. Each champion has his own way of dominating his era.

Boxing is never in a weak era. The best are always the best.

Yeah you're right.

Beating Sam Peter is the same as beating Joe Frazier because they were both ranked the same at the time of the fight.

Not to mention Peter was a lot heavier = a lot better.

Words of wisdom.

[Weltschmerz]

Yeah especially Ali, right?

The Listons, Fraziers, Foremans, Lyles, Nortons, Holmes, Shavers of the world are nothing compared to the might of Wach, Pianeta, Leapai and Mormecks of the world.

To think Ali bothered to fight some of these guys multiple times the guy is a joke.

I never stated Ali is a joke. But I would like you to say Alis best win, Foreman?

[beez721]

Yeah especially Ali, right?

The Listons, Fraziers, Foremans, Lyles, Nortons, Holmes, Shavers of the world are nothing compared to the might of Wach, Pianeta, Leapai and Mormecks of the world.

To think Ali bothered to fight some of these guys multiple times the guy is a joke.

yea,,,ali had by far the greatest resume among the atg's. louis and holmes had there fair share of soft touches like wlad and holmes had a couple questionable decisions that could have gone the other way

[GeneralZod]

Yeah you're right.

Beating Sam Peter is the same as beating Joe Frazier because they were both ranked the same at the time of the fight.

Not to mention Peter was a lot heavier = a lot better.

Words of wisdom.

P4P all time

#1. Wlad
#2. Wlad
#3. Vitali
#4. Ross Purritty
#5. Alex Leapai
#6. Sven Ottke
#7. Chris byrd
#8. Sam Peter
#9. Brian Sutherland
#10. Valuev
#11. Povetkin
#12. Clay
#13. that Robinson guy
#14. Butterbean
#15. Happy trail Haye
#16. Lamont Brewster (drugs got him tha win doe)
#17. Lennox Lewis (be higher if he beat vitali)
#18. Sanders (wlad win doesn't count)
#19. Young Wlad
#20. Prime Tyson