Matthysse Dominated That Fight and I think Improved As A Boxer In The Process

[Da Machine]

it wasn't a dominant performance by any stretch of the imagination. it was a war. i don't know what's so hard for people to understand, bro

Well plenty of people agree with my assessment. Even people who don't like Matthysse.

Why should we take your word as absolute? Ive never seen you say anything positive about Matthysse, dating back to pre Garcia fight.

[John Barron]

i didn't feel lucas dominated the fight, only seen it live not on tape yet, but he certainly demolished molina in those last 2 rounds. the crowd was going bat**** crazy throughout the whole fight.

[Kagami Taiga]

Ya, and he lost every rd to Matthysse besides the KD's. Whats your point?

Smh I think I made it. If u can't understand it then I'm clearly wasting my time. He won a hard fought victory against a non world class opponent. Stop hyping it.

[MrP4P]

Well plenty of people agree with my assessment. Even people who don't like Matthysse.

Why should we take your word as absolute? Ive never seen you say anything positive about Matthysse, dating back to pre Garcia fight.

It was a war. It wasnt a dominating performance. You dont hear FOTY if one man was dominating the other. It was back and forth and Matthysee was the much better fighter.

[Dean_Razorback]

i didn't feel lucas dominated the fight, only seen it live not on tape yet, but he certainly demolished molina in those last 2 rounds. the crowd was going bat**** crazy throughout the whole fight.

one thing is watching it live, other is watching it again knowing the final result, matthysse did dominate molina most of the fight.

[NearHypnos]

It was a dominant win and like others I only had Molina winning the KD rounds... Seriously..lucas landed almost every power shot he threw. It only LOOKED like he atruggled because Molina wouldnt go down. Excuse Lucas for Molina being tough as shi t lol. 60% of power shots from a big puncher? Not dominant enough? Jesus lol. Sometimes I think people dont watch what both fighters do in a fight...hell I know they dont.



Also, one of the above posters. Yes, you do hear FOTY calls even if one guy is being dominated... Case in point Omar Figueroa vs Arikawa. The fight was great because of how tough Molina is and how hard he punches. It wouldnt be foty candidate if Molina would of just crumbled with the first big left hook he took..

[Da Machine]

Smh I think I made it. If u can't understand it then I'm clearly wasting my time. He won a hard fought victory against a non world class opponent. Stop hyping it.

Not hyping anything. Matthysse won in great fashion.
Ive never said Molina was a top flight opponent and it showed in the fight, especially the second half.

It was a war. It wasnt a dominating performance. You dont hear FOTY if one man was dominating the other. It was back and forth and Matthysee was the much better fighter.

Ive already explained this. Matthysse essentially won every minute and aspect of the fight besides Molina's power showing up.

The fight was exciting for that reason, and the tension of anything could happen along with both guys swinging for the fences. A fight can be FOTY even if it's lopsided on the scorecards.

[Loque-san]

one thing is watching it live, other is watching it again knowing the final result, matthysse did dominate molina most of the fight.

I agree. Matthysse was landing right hands almost at will and Molina was not throwing enough punches.

[New England]

He was never at any point, "ready to go." Not once.

Both the knockdowns, he jumped up rather quickly and went back to work. He only wobbled once, maybe twice besides that, and again responded with his own offense rather quickly.

He was not anywhere close to almost knocked out.

he was wobbled, but he wasn't hurt! he was holding, but he wasn't hurt!

he was knocked down, but it wasn't close to knocking him out!


bro, when you get knocked down, they start to count. if they count to 10, you are knocked out.

getting dropped puts you a hell of a lot closer to knocked out than it does to 100%.


i'm not going to sit here and argue the semantics of being "almost" knocked out. that's a complete waste of time. what cannot be argued is that matthysse was hurt, wobbled, and held on, which is what boxers do when they are buzzed. those are the steps that directly precede a knockout.

[John Barron]

one thing is watching it live, other is watching it again knowing the final result, matthysse did dominate molina most of the fight.

yeah there's a big difference but like i said that was just my initial impression. neither fighter seemed dominant until matthysse took the right hand away from molina in the later rounds and demolished him.