Originally posted by hectari
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Look like Golden Boy's internal feud is over. And cold war may be over soon
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Boxing is great, is doing great now, and will always survive and thrive over promotional beefs. Soon, other cool promoters, who care about the sport, will surface.
I don't care about this in the meantime.
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Originally posted by hectari View PostAnd they have their brain dead followers aka the Flowmos or Floyd fans who always say its ARUM its all ARUM, ARUM is the bad guy, these morons are so ****** its not even funny. Anyone who is a floyd apologist is braindead they are seriously like zombies and fall for anything and don't think deep at all Floyd likes this, than it must be true! or Floyd hates that than I hate it too. smh
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Originally posted by hectari View PostAnd they have their brain dead followers aka the Flowmos or Floyd fans who always say its ARUM its all ARUM, ARUM is the bad guy, these morons are so ****** its not even funny. Anyone who is a floyd apologist is braindead they are seriously like zombies and fall for anything and don't think deep at all Floyd likes this, than it must be true! or Floyd hates that than I hate it too. smh
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Originally posted by Obama2.0 View PostSo what are you trying to say I don't get it. You sound very incoherent to be honest. Arum burnt bridges with so many ppl. Oscar and arum may have love from their past business relationship. Yet on the other hand him and Richard don't. So Richard has every right to be anti arum and phase him out the business bc if it was the other way around Arum wouldn't be trying to help oscar or golden boy. When top rank was on top. They were so anti golden boy it wasn't funny. It wasn't until a few months ago. When arum realized he can't keep retreading these same boring ass fights he wants to business with Oscar. Not out of love or respect but bc of necessity.
so Richard has every right to be anti Arum? why because Arum helped him out? you make no sense its like you have some type of revisionist history or make up your on view and block out the facts.
Did you know when floyd retired, golden boy and Arum settled the contract dispute of Pacman, the first cold war ended only because Richard had no choice since he had lost his biggest draw, he smiled to Arum like a two face only because at the time he had no choice, Floyd was retired and Arum had all the top guys. When did this feud come back? when Floyd came out of retirement and Richard started talking ****.
You claim arum would phase Golden boy out of business if he had the chance? oh really is that why when they first squashed the beef Top rank put Pacman in with all golden boy fighters? no in house fights, Barrera, Marquez, Hatton, Oscar were all Golden boy when Pac fought them, also Arum put Cotto in with Mosley, and Margarito in with Mosley, Mosley was a golden boy fighter, also Pavlik vs. Hopkins another tp rank vs. gb fight. so there goes your view of Arum would do the same if he had the chance, because in fact he helped them he never buried them.
so you already lost your argument there. the truth is and its finally showing with the way Richard is acting that its Richard who is the problem, he has no intention of doing business with Arum, but when Richard was down and out it was Arum who extended a hand when they apologized, but Richard won't do business with Arum, there seems to be no quid pro quo here. r
Arum doesn't do in house fights because he likes to, its because he has every right to be anti Richard after Richard screwed him over and started showing his true colors after Arum reached out with an olive branch the first time to squash the beef.
Also Arum works with other promoters, Ruslan and alvarado are not his fighters, and Sergio Martinez is a dibella fighter.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostI actually believe what roach said about why the fight didn't happen. is a roach a flowmo?
So I agree with Roach.
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Originally posted by JoeMan View PostEven Pacquiao blames himself for not calling chicken Floyd's bluff right away. Pacman gave Floyd and his cult members ammunition to duck the fight further. Three years since Pacman's mistake and chicken Floyd dumped nothing but roadblocks. So now the difference is that had Pacman called your idol's bluff immediately he would have been exposed early.
So I agree with Roach.
Thanks, JoeMan for kinda sorta holding manny accountable. Its probably the most any far right, birther fringe manny fan like yourself will do.
Of course Manny wouldn't call the bluff because he and Bob were too afraid floyd would say yes, just like he did to all their requests.
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Originally posted by hectari View PostDude you are seriously blind. When top rank was on top they were anti goldenboy? or reallly?????? is that why arum helped them out when he was on top if he was so anti golden boy how come he was the one putting his fighters in with their fighters when they settled the Pac contract, use your brain instead.
so Richard has every right to be anti Arum? why because Arum helped him out? you make no sense its like you have some type of revisionist history or make up your on view and block out the facts.
Did you know when floyd retired, golden boy and Arum settled the contract dispute of Pacman, the first cold war ended only because Richard had no choice since he had lost his biggest draw, he smiled to Arum like a two face only because at the time he had no choice, Floyd was retired and Arum had all the top guys. When did this feud come back? when Floyd came out of retirement and Richard started talking ****.
You claim arum would phase Golden boy out of business if he had the chance? oh really is that why when they first squashed the beef Top rank put Pacman in with all golden boy fighters? no in house fights, Barrera, Marquez, Hatton, Oscar were all Golden boy when Pac fought them, also Arum put Cotto in with Mosley, and Margarito in with Mosley, Mosley was a golden boy fighter, also Pavlik vs. Hopkins another tp rank vs. gb fight. so there goes your view of Arum would do the same if he had the chance, because in fact he helped them he never buried them.
so you already lost your argument there. the truth is and its finally showing with the way Richard is acting that its Richard who is the problem, he has no intention of doing business with Arum, but when Richard was down and out it was Arum who extended a hand when they apologized, but Richard won't do business with Arum, there seems to be no quid pro quo here. r
Arum doesn't do in house fights because he likes to, its because he has every right to be anti Richard after Richard screwed him over and started showing his true colors after Arum reached out with an olive branch the first time to squash the beef.
Also Arum works with other promoters, Ruslan and alvarado are not his fighters, and Sergio Martinez is a dibella fighter.
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No one can even say GBP run by Schaefer is winning the cold war. It is not. The fights they are able to produce have become even more rare. Their association with Mayweather has not produced financial benefits. GBP is just getting crumbs when Mayweather fights. The Greedy Team don't even want GBP to get involved heavily when Mayweather fights so they don't have to pay Schaefer too much money.... When was the last time you saw these guys fight, Berto, Khan, Guerrero, Matthysse and many others in their stable? They are now fighting once a year. Some even close to two years. (Thanks, Floyd.) GBP can now only afford Star vs Bum types. They can't afford to make Thurman vs Guerrero/Porter, for example, or Star vs Star types. They're broke.
GBP is better off run by Dela Hoya. He can do business with both Showtime and HBO.
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Originally posted by JoeMan View PostNo one can even say GBP run by Schaefer is winning the cold war. It is not. The fights they are able to produce have become even more rare. Their association with Mayweather has not produced financial benefits. GBP is just getting crumbs when Mayweather fights. The Greedy Team don't even want GBP to get involved heavily when Mayweather fights so they don't have to pay Schaefer too much money.... When was the last time you saw these guys fight, Berto, Khan, Guerrero, Matthysse and many others in their stable? They are now fighting once a year. Some even close to two years. (Thanks, Floyd.) GBP can now only afford Star vs Bum types. They can't afford to make Thurman vs Guerrero/Porter, for example, or Star vs Star types. They're broke.
GBP is better off run by Dela Hoya. He can do business with both Showtime and HBO.
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