Armed with irrefutable facts ,rate Floyd's ORTIZ win

[Wenpire]

I can't believe people still tell themselves that Ortiz was having success. Ortiz was getting the **** kicked out of him. He was probably going to get stopped even without Floyd sucker punching him. At no point was that fight getting exciting or getting competitive, and Ortiz has no case for winning any of the rounds.

Lol ortiz was not getting stopped, he wasn't even seriously hurt. floyd tagged him with maybe 4 or 5 right hands in 4 rounds, that's not that bad considering ortiz was charging in with flurries and catching floyd with occasional hooks which buckled floyd on occasion.

The fight was exciting before it ended, floyd was winning but was feeling uncomfortable because he didnt know what to do with ortizs wild charges and flurries that came out of nowhere. Yes he blocked most of them but ortiz was making the kind of impact that canelo couldn't make.

Ortiz fought the perfect fight barring the head butts, considering how much more skilled his opponent is.

[Wenpire]

He landed like less than 5 solid clean punches the entirety of the first 4 Rounds.

Ortiz landing 5 solid punches in 4 rounds is actually very good since floyd only tagged ortiz with maybe 5 right hands as well. Ortiz was moving around on the outside where floyd couldn't tag him and would all of the sudden explode out of nowhere and back floyd up onto the ropes, rattling floyd with an occasional hook. Canelo couldn't land 2 clean punches in 12 rounds while ortiz landed 4 or 5 in just 4 rounds and even roughed floyd up on the ropes.

Why did ortiz do better? Because he is a southpaw with hand speed and more importantly foot speed which allows him to fight an ambush style.

Shame the fight ended so soon, because it was starting to get interesting.

[Weebler I]

Ortiz landing 5 solid punches in 4 rounds is actually very good since floyd only tagged ortiz with maybe 5 right hands as well. Ortiz was moving around on the outside where floyd couldn't tag him and would all of the sudden explode out of nowhere and back floyd up onto the ropes, rattling floyd with an occasional hook. Canelo couldn't land 2 clean punches in 12 rounds while ortiz landed 4 or 5 in just 4 rounds and even roughed floyd up on the ropes.

Why did ortiz do better? Because he is a southpaw with hand speed and more importantly foot speed which allows him to fight an ambush style.

Shame the fight ended so soon, because it was starting to get interesting.

Yeah, I watched round 4 earlier. What was interesting is that Ortiz brought Floyd onto his front foot which left him vulnerable. This is the same way Mosley landed on him. Mayweather didn't look safe on his front-foot at all.

[toyboy33]

Good win for Floyd. Before the headbutt, Ortiz was getting his ass kicked. He headbutted out of frustration and then forgot the Cardinal rule of boxing......protect yourself at all times.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

It was a solid win for Floyd..

Floyd was coming off a nearly 2 year layoff, fought a young power punching champ coming off his biggest victory and Floyd came in and dominated..

I don't care about the sucker punch.. Floyd was owning him, then Ortiz headbutted when he trapped Floyd, then like a little girl, begged for forgiveness, and got sucker punched,..

If your willing to fight dirty, that's fine, but don't fight dirty and then apologize like a sissy.. I never saw Golata or Hopkins apologizing... Ortiz fought dirty, and then got beat dirty..

Good win for Floyd, not the greatest win, but considering Floyd was on a long layoff and Ortiz was coming off his best win, I think it's a very solid win for floyd

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Lol ortiz was not getting stopped, he wasn't even seriously hurt. floyd tagged him with maybe 4 or 5 right hands in 4 rounds, that's not that bad considering ortiz was charging in with flurries and catching floyd with occasional hooks which buckled floyd on occasion.

The fight was exciting before it ended, floyd was winning but was feeling uncomfortable because he didnt know what to do with ortizs wild charges and flurries that came out of nowhere. Yes he blocked most of them but ortiz was making the kind of impact that canelo couldn't make.

Ortiz fought the perfect fight barring the head butts, considering how much more skilled his opponent is.

Dude, you need to watch the fight again, or you are a troll... Floyd lit that dude up with the straight right... He landed it repeatedly and was going to stop Ortiz eventually... Ortiz might have had alittle success in the 4th, but then he fought dirty, and got iced... Even if none of that happened, Ortiz was getting stopped in the 9th or 10th round... Floyd couldn't miss ortiz

[Espy]

I don't see how this fight was "getting interesting"

Floyd wasn't in danger of being stopped, was hurting Ortiz much more than Ortiz was "hurting" him, was controlling the pace of the fight, and would've been better conditioned had the fight gone the distance.

There was a reason why Ortiz headbutted him and it was because he was frustrated and not getting very many opportunities.

People are criticizing Floyd for hitting Ortiz with a legal shot (albeit very cheap) in response to Ortiz cheating.

Is this real life? I mean I'm a Floyd fan and I wholeheartedly agree that there was no necessity for Floyd to take advantage of the situation like he did, but is this serious? Ortiz CHEATED but Floyd is to blame because he hit the CHEATER with a cheap shot? The hate for Floyd truly is strong.

[radioraheem]

Dude, you need to watch the fight again, or you are a troll... Floyd lit that dude up with the straight right... He landed it repeatedly and was going to stop Ortiz eventually... Ortiz might have had alittle success in the 4th, but then he fought dirty, and got iced... Even if none of that happened, Ortiz was getting stopped in the 9th or 10th round... Floyd couldn't miss ortiz

Exactly. It's so funny. Ortiz was getting blasted with big right hands for 4 straight rounds. In the beginning of the 4th, Floyd felt so comfortable he started unleashing combos at will which he rarely does these days. Ortiz was totally on his way to getting stopped. People also forget that this isn't the first time that Ortiz folds when he's getting his a$$ beat up. They forget about his other crazy stunts in the past.

[Da Machine]

Like usual, people overstating what Floyd actually did in the ring. Floyd isn't an overwhelming fighter, and hasn't overwhelmed anyone in a long time.

Ortiz wasn't doing that bad, considering who we know he is now.

[Espy]

Like usual, people overstating what Floyd actually did in the ring. Floyd isn't an overwhelming fighter, and hasn't overwhelmed anyone in a long time.

Ortiz wasn't doing that bad, considering who we know he is now.

Just because a fighter isn't throwing a 100 punches per round doesn't mean they aren't overwhelming the opponent.

Punching distance and pace of a fight has a lot to do with how the fight plays out. If you can establish a range where you can consistently beat your opponent to the punch and time the majority of their actions there is very little they can do outside of landing a big shot to win the fight.

When you make a fighter one dimensional they indeed are very overwhelmed. Especially if you can land almost at will.

Edit: Ortiz was doing bad by many standards, he won 30 seconds of the round he got knocked out in and was losing every round previous to that. He had very little defense and no answer to Mayweather's offense.

I hate how momentary success against Mayweather means you "gave him fits"

in a couple of months posters here will be saying Mayweather went life and death with Cotto :lol: