Armed with irrefutable facts ,rate Floyd's ORTIZ win

[Spoon23]

A scale from 1-10. 10 being the highest. ZERO

FLOYD was a coward for cheap shotting his way to victory.

Victor was landing bombs in there. He was competitive in the ring with Floyd. Sadly, Floyd had to rob as with a possible good fight.

That shouldn't be considered a legit win in the first place.

[Espy]

A scale from 1-10. 10 being the highest. ZERO

FLOYD was a coward for cheap shotting his way to victory.

Victor was landing bombs in there. He was competitive in the ring with Floyd. Sadly, Floyd had to rob as with a possible good fight.

That shouldn't be considered a legit win in the first place.

So Floyd is a coward for a cheap yet legal shot


BUT


Ortiz is competitive for CHEATING with a headbutt???


That my friends is called hate/bias/double standards/hypocrisy.

[Spoon23]

Victor was winning the fourth round. Snapped Floyd's head with some nice combos
Watching the fight again I was surprised how victor was holding his own in there.

Watching the 3rd and fourth round again. Wow got surprised how competitive Victor was. He was throwing bombs and pushing Floyd. I can see Floyd hurt in some occasions.

I can swear victor landed some pretty good bombs and some nice combos. In the fourth Floyd had to shake his head to show he wasn't hurt but we know darn well when a fighter does that means he got hurt bad.

Victor was in there, pushing Floyd in the ropes. 3rd and fourth should have been victors. Victor was pressing. Floyd had cleaner shots but the number of bombs victor threw was a lot and would have accumulated if it reached 12 rounds. You can sense victors punches is coming from a young strong lion. It was turning into a good fight. Victor landed some good body and head shots that snapped Floyd. Floyd was in a fight. we will never know if went the distance. But it would have been a great fight regardless who wins.

Victor was winning the fourth round until he got frustrated at the end when nothing was landing, but if his temperance was in check. He should have known that he rocked Floyd and landed some great shots on the fourth. He was a beast stalking Floyd on the fourth.

I think Floyd resorted to a cheap shot coz Floyd knows his in a real war. If it reached 12 even if Floyd would have won I think we would have seen a Floyd battered and bruised for the first time. Floyd would still have won but I think Floyd would have a not so pretty boy face afterwards. Just sad we didn't get a real war. It was shaping up until Victor snapped.

It's true what Victors old trainer said about him. He easily gets frustrated and has no temperance. Sad he could have ****** for 12 rounds. Victor lacks is brain savvy. He is skilled but lacks a cool head. He was just a hungry bull. If he had patience he could have damaged Floyd if it ever reached 12 rounds.

****you will see a different perspective if you watch the fight again. Floyd was in a real war in there sad it had to end with a cheap shot. Would have been a great fight ********

Damn sweet. Watch the 1:04 - 1:11 mark it was a rally by Victor almost all landed and floyd shakes his head as if to say I wasn't hurt but of course he was lol. Then 2:40 -2:43

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKV86...layer_embedded

Damn sweet. Watch the 1:04 - 1:11 mark it was a rally by Victor almost all landed and floyd shakes his head as if to say I wasn't hurt but of course he was lol. Then 2:40 -2:43 Can't you see that?? That was all head?? Clean crisp shots. And the start of the round Victor blocked almost everything Floyd threw. His hands were all up even if floyd threw some shots it was blocked by Victor. Most of Floyd's shots were blocked.

Ortiz blocked 80 - 90% of Floyd's punches. His guard was up. Floyd was hitting gloves.
Last edited by Spoon23; 09-19-2011 at 02:17 AM.

[Da Machine]

Just because a fighter isn't throwing a 100 punches per round doesn't mean they aren't overwhelming the opponent.

Punching distance and pace of a fight has a lot to do with how the fight plays out. If you can establish a range where you can consistently beat your opponent to the punch and time the majority of their actions there is very little they can do outside of landing a big shot to win the fight.

When you make a fighter one dimensional they indeed are very overwhelmed. Especially if you can land almost at will.

Edit: Ortiz was doing bad by many standards, he won 30 seconds of the round he got knocked out in and was losing every round previous to that. He had very little defense and no answer to Mayweather's offense.

I hate how momentary success against Mayweather means you "gave him fits"

in a couple of months posters here will be saying Mayweather went life and death with Cotto :lol:

I don't remember the fight all that well, but I know only one of the first 4 ds pre ko was dominant by Floyd. He didn't do anything special in the 4 rds of the fight.

[Spoon23]

So Floyd is a coward for a cheap yet legal shot


BUT


Ortiz is competitive for CHEATING with a headbutt???


That my friends is called hate/bias/double standards/hypocrisy.

All I'm saying is we got robbed of a good fight.

Both are dumb for doing what they did. It was turning into a good fight.

Dirty tactics is part of boxing, if you can get away with it. It's up to the ref to see it.

Barrera is an example to that and a lot more boxers do it. floyd uses his elbows allot. that in itself shouldnt be done but ref allow him too. biased? maybe? just to add.

[Spoon23]

It was a competitive fight that could have gone 12 rounds. Sadly, victor lost his head in the game.

I still believe to this day. If victor is poised, calm and collected in the ring he can take Floyd out in there. He was giving a good show. Those bombs he threw were nasty.

[Espy]

All I'm saying is we got robbed of a good fight.

Both are dumb for doing what they did. It was turning into a good fight.

Dirty tactics is part of boxing, if you can get away with it. It's up to the ref to see it.

Barrera is an example to that and a lot more boxers do it. floyd uses his elbows allot. that in itself shouldnt be done but ref allow him too. biased? maybe? just to add.

I know that dirty tactics are used in boxing, that's why I'm not the one complaining.

You are complaining about Floyd using a dirty tactic but you are not complaining about Ortiz using a dirty tactic.

I'm pointing out the fact that you are way too biased and have zero credibility in terms of your opinion. I'm pointing out that you shouldn't be taken seriously as a poster. I'm pointing out that you aren't even a real person because you lack logic. I'm pointing out your female tendencies and your inability to respect a fighter even though you dislike them.

I hate Kobe Bryant with a passion but I respect the hell out of his game. You hate Floyd Mayweather with a passion and you hate on his game. You are a hater and the type of person who I do not respect.

I don't care if this is the internet, you are what's wrong with society.

[Espy]

I don't remember the fight all that well, but I know only one of the first 4 ds pre ko was dominant by Floyd. He didn't do anything special in the 4 rds of the fight.

I know compubox isn't 100% accurate but if Mayweather wasn't doing anything special then Ortiz was a walking zombie.

He landed at a near 50% clip for power punches. He was dominating the fight, and landing almost at will. Come on dude.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/view.php?pg=mayweather-ortiz-compubox

[Spoon23]

I know that dirty tactics are used in boxing, that's why I'm not the one complaining.

You are complaining about Floyd using a dirty tactic but you are not complaining about Ortiz using a dirty tactic.

I'm pointing out the fact that you are way too biased and have zero credibility in terms of your opinion. I'm pointing out that you shouldn't be taken seriously as a poster. I'm pointing out that you aren't even a real person because you lack logic. I'm pointing out your female tendencies and your inability to respect a fighter even though you dislike them.

I hate Kobe Bryant with a passion but I respect the hell out of his game. You hate Floyd Mayweather with a passion and you hate on his game. You are a hater and the type of person who I do not respect.

I don't care if this is the internet, you are what's wrong with society.

Your not getting it.

WE GOT ROBBED OF A GOOD FIGHT. The fight was competitive. That's all I'm saying.

[Thickback]

Victor was winning the fourth round. Snapped Floyd's head with some nice combos
Watching the fight again I was surprised how victor was holding his own in there.

Watching the 3rd and fourth round again. Wow got surprised how competitive Victor was. He was throwing bombs and pushing Floyd. I can see Floyd hurt in some occasions.

I can swear victor landed some pretty good bombs and some nice combos. In the fourth Floyd had to shake his head to show he wasn't hurt but we know darn well when a fighter does that means he got hurt bad.

Victor was in there, pushing Floyd in the ropes. 3rd and fourth should have been victors. Victor was pressing. Floyd had cleaner shots but the number of bombs victor threw was a lot and would have accumulated if it reached 12 rounds. You can sense victors punches is coming from a young strong lion. It was turning into a good fight. Victor landed some good body and head shots that snapped Floyd. Floyd was in a fight. we will never know if went the distance. But it would have been a great fight regardless who wins.

Victor was winning the fourth round until he got frustrated at the end when nothing was landing, but if his temperance was in check. He should have known that he rocked Floyd and landed some great shots on the fourth. He was a beast stalking Floyd on the fourth.

I think Floyd resorted to a cheap shot coz Floyd knows his in a real war. If it reached 12 even if Floyd would have won I think we would have seen a Floyd battered and bruised for the first time. Floyd would still have won but I think Floyd would have a not so pretty boy face afterwards. Just sad we didn't get a real war. It was shaping up until Victor snapped.

It's true what Victors old trainer said about him. He easily gets frustrated and has no temperance. Sad he could have ****** for 12 rounds. Victor lacks is brain savvy. He is skilled but lacks a cool head. He was just a hungry bull. If he had patience he could have damaged Floyd if it ever reached 12 rounds.

****you will see a different perspective if you watch the fight again. Floyd was in a real war in there sad it had to end with a cheap shot. Would have been a great fight ********

Damn sweet. Watch the 1:04 - 1:11 mark it was a rally by Victor almost all landed and floyd shakes his head as if to say I wasn't hurt but of course he was lol. Then 2:40 -2:43

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKV86...layer_embedded

Damn sweet. Watch the 1:04 - 1:11 mark it was a rally by Victor almost all landed and floyd shakes his head as if to say I wasn't hurt but of course he was lol. Then 2:40 -2:43 Can't you see that?? That was all head?? Clean crisp shots. And the start of the round Victor blocked almost everything Floyd threw. His hands were all up even if floyd threw some shots it was blocked by Victor. Most of Floyd's shots were blocked.

Ortiz blocked 80 - 90% of Floyd's punches. His guard was up. Floyd was hitting gloves.
Last edited by Spoon23; 09-19-2011 at 02:17 AM.

You sound just as bias as Jim Lampley. I very respectfully disagree with you.