Armed with irrefutable facts ,rate Floyd's ORTIZ win

[Espy]

Your not getting it.

WE GOT ROBBED OF A GOOD FIGHT. The fight was competitive. That's all I'm saying.

You know damn well that's not all you are saying. You are just back tracking because it's obvious how ridiculous your posts in this thread are. You are literally supporting a cheater and condemning someone who took a legal shot in retaliation.

We didn't get "ROBBED OF A GOOD FIGHT"

Ortiz cheated and Mayweather retaliated. Whether or not you agree with Mayweather's retaliation does not exonerate Ortiz for cheating. If anything you should be complaining that Ortiz cheated.

You won't win this, you are wrong.


Mind you I don't even agree with Mayweather's retaliation but I'm not gonna sit here and criticize his actions when someone tried to headbutt him. Are you serious right now? You clearly dislike Mayweather, why are you trying to act like discrediting him isn't ALWAYS your agenda.

[Spoon23]

You know damn well that's not all you are saying. You are just back tracking because it's obvious how ridiculous your posts in this thread are. You are literally supporting a cheater and condemning someone who took a legal shot in retaliation.

We didn't get "ROBBED OF A GOOD FIGHT"

Ortiz cheated and Mayweather retaliated. Whether or not you agree with Mayweather's retaliation does not exonerate Ortiz for cheating. If anything you should be complaining that Ortiz cheated.

You won't win this, you are wrong.


Mind you I don't even agree with Mayweather's retaliation but I'm not gonna sit here and criticize his actions when someone tried to headbutt him. Are you serious right now? You clearly dislike Mayweather, why are you trying to act like discrediting him isn't ALWAYS your agenda.

Wether you like it or not. That was a very good competitive fight if they both didnt do what they did. It would have been a 12 rd interesting fight.

Cheap shotting an opponent doesnt give you skill points.

This thread is all about your opinion about floyd. And he didnt do anything to impress me. Infact Ortiz was the one who impressed me if he didnt lose his composure.

This thread is about rating Floyd in that fight. How can you rate someone eho cheap shotted an opponent. There is no skill in that.

Both are dumb for giving a fuvk up performance.

[Spoon23]

I repeat this thread is about how you can rate Floyd's performance.

That said how can you rate someone who cheap shotted himself to victory.

I repeat no skill in there. So no score at all lol

[Espy]

Wether you lile it or not. That was a very good competitive fight.

Cheap shotting an opponent doesnt give you skill points.

This thread is all about your opinion about floyd. And he didnt do amything to press me. Infact Ortiz was the one who impressed me if he didnt lose hos composure.

Both are dumb for giving a fuvk up performance.

How dense are you?

Ortiz CHEATED

Mayweather RETALIATED LEGALLY

The actions aren't even comparable. Yet you are impressed with Ortiz and upset with Mayweather for "robbing us of a good fight." Ortiz robbed you of a good fight by getting knocked out you fool.

The fight wasn't even competitive. Other than this fight when was the last time Mayweather threw 60+ punches in a round? He was catching him at will and his output clearly showed that. He was comfortable enough to throw combinations and teeing off with right hands.

Obviously Mayweather didn't impress you because you are a huge hater. Mayweather could grow wings and fly in the ring and still not impress you because you HATE him. YOU ARE A HATER.

MAYWEATHER WILL NEVER IMPRESS YOU BECAUSE YOU HATE.

Why am I even arguing with you? An old and diminished Pacquaio is better to you than a Pacquaio in his prime. The same Pacquaio who was getting tagged by Bradley because he is no longer athletic enough to turn opponents when retreating and must resort to going straight backwards. Your opinion on impressive boxers is clearly irrelevant.

That's not even a slight at Pacquaio, you're just actually ******ed.

How are these "my opinions of Floyd?" Floyd landed almost three times as many punches as Ortiz in four rounds, twice as many power shots, out landed Ortiz EVERY round, and only lost maybe 30 seconds of the round in which he LEGALLY knocked out Ortiz. That doesn't seem very competitive at all.

It is your opinion that the fight was competitive, every piece of empirical data shows otherwise and your opinion is formulated on the basis that Ortiz landed a few punches that didn't even hurt Mayweather. Mayweather was never hurt or in trouble and was always in control of the fight. It's always the same thing, I bet in your opinion you think Mosley TOOK it to Mayweather because he landed a couple of clean shots. You probably think that Cotto gave Mayweather a super competitive fight too. Mayweather is so dominant that when he loses a portion of a round or fight all of the sudden it is a competitive fight.

The fight was competitive in the sense that Ortiz is a professional and Mayweather isn't a power puncher so he was still working on wearing Ortiz down. The fight wouldn't have been a close fight down the line unless Ortiz landed something big. If that's your argument then cool, that's not an argument at all. Nothing indicated that would happen. Every Mayweather fight would be close if we just assumed his opponent would land a big enough shot at some point. That's just not the case.

[Espy]

I repeat this thread is about how you can rate Floyd's performance.

That said how can you rate someone who cheap shotted himself to victory.

I repeat no skill in there. So no score at all lol

Dude stop trying to act like this was what happened.

Mayweather didn't cheap shot his way to victory.

1. Ortiz cheated
2. Mayweather was angry and punched him in the face rather than accept his apology.
3. Ortiz happened to get knocked out because he was apologizing rather than protecting himself in the ring

I don't agree with Mayweather's actions, but it's not like he threw the punches in hope that he would win because he was losing badly. He threw the punches in retaliation to Ortiz's illegal move. If Ortiz didn't try to headbutt Mayweather it would have never happened. Stop trying to act like it was a desperation move by Mayweather.

[Spoon23]

Dude. THIS THREAD IS ABOUT RATING THE PERFORMANCE OF THE FIGHTERS.

Ask yourself. How can you rate someone's performance if he cheap shotted to win.

CAN YOU SEE SKILL IN A CHEAP SHOT?

Coz honestly, that is not a skill.

Read the thread title. You dont understand english dude. Improve your comprehension.

[Espy]

Dude. THIS THREAD IS ABOUT RATING THE PERFORMANCE OF THE FIGHTERS.

Ask yourself. How can you rate someone's performance if he cheap shotted to win.

CAN YOU SEE SKILL IN A CHEAP SHOT?

Coz honestly, that is not a skill.

Read the thread title. You dont understand english dude. Improve your comprehension.

You are a fool, I am not responding to the thread I am responding to your posts.

Your posts are biased and I am calling YOU out.

Want me to rate Mayweather's performance? Here you go:

Mayweather fought a solid fight where he was in control and dictated the pace. His defense looked a little sloppy for about 10 seconds in the 4th round but his offense was very sharp throughout the whole fight. 7/10 performance, had we seen more rounds it probably would have gone up as Mayweather was starting to land at will.

Happy? Now stop ducking the fact that you are a troll and a detriment to the community.

I have comprehension issues yet you can barely formulate sentences, have syntax and diction issues AND you think Ortiz won the third round when he landed FOUR punches the WHOLE round compared to Mayweather's 22. Are you kidding me?

Here's the compubox again because you are clearly using the CJ Ross method for scoring fights

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/view.php?pg=mayweather-ortiz-compubox

You should seriously leave this site, you aren't even good at trolling.

[Da Machine]

I know compubox isn't 100% accurate but if Mayweather wasn't doing anything special then Ortiz was a walking zombie.

He landed at a near 50% clip for power punches. He was dominating the fight, and landing almost at will. Come on dude.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/vi...ortiz-compubox

I ate that compubox up years ago. It was so unbelievably false its unreal.

All of Floyds fights have the most extremely misleading compubox stats.

[Showtime..]

Are these boxers bums before they fought May or after? Except for die hard Pac fans, few if any were calling Ortiz a bum. They became bums only after the schooling they receive from May. By the way, can you name some of these boxers in May's wt. level who, in your definition are not bums?

Bradley is a bum - Pretty Boy Fans

[Espy]

I ate that compubox up years ago. It was so unbelievably false its unreal.

All of Floyds fights have the most extremely misleading compubox stats.

I haven't watched the Ortiz fight in a while so I'm not 100% sure how accurate these numbers are but the bolded part of your post is terribly false.

I feel like Floyd slows the pace down so badly that his compubox numbers are typically much more accurate than other fighters.

You have to remember punches landed on the arms and shoulders DO NOT count as scoring punches and are therefore not supposed to be counted by compubox.