Mayweather has never fought a REAL Welterweight

[Doctor_Tenma]

I don't understand this at all, he moved up too, we're talking about a fighter who enters the ring weighing a buck 50 at LMW...help me out here

[oc9979]

Mosley was ranked number 1 welterweight by whom?

I'll take Pacquaio who just demolished Cotto and who cruised against Clottey.

Based on The Ring Magazine for August 2009. The WW rankings were
1. Mosley
2. Cotto
3. Margarito
4. Clottey
5. Quintana
6. Berto
7. Collazo
8. Judah
9. Hlatswayo
10. Senchenko

P4P
1. Pacquiao
2. Juan Manuel Marquez
3. Hopkins
4. Mosley
5. Vazquez
6. Rafael Marquez
7. Cotto
8. Donaire
9. Darchinyan
10. Caballero

[oc9979]

There was nearly a year and a half between Mosley demolishing Margarito and fighting Floyd and because the Berto fight fell through, he didn't fight in between.

The Ring belt wasn't on the line when Mosley fought Margarito as Cotto was still ranked second. They didn't make an exception to let Mosley who was ranked 3rd or 4th at the time, fight for the belt. So he wasn't lineal by any means when Floyd fought him.

By May of 2010
The Ring Magazine had

1. Pacquiao
2. Mosley
3. Mayweather
4. Cotto
5. Clottey
6. Berto
7. Collazo
8. Jackiewicz
9. Zaveck
10. Senchenko

P4P

1. Pacquiao
2. Mayweather
3. Mosley
4. HOpkins
5. Marquez
6. Donaire
7. Cotto
8. Dawson
9. Williams
10. Caballero

[Grimmer]

Ring and lineal are two different things.

Agreed.

But in this case I think the rankings go hand in hand. As you wouldn't drop Cotto below Mosley after Cotto had lost to Margarito, as Cotto had still beaten Mosley after all.

[oc9979]

Agreed.

But in this case I think the rankings go hand in hand. As you wouldn't drop Cotto below Mosley after Cotto had lost to Margarito, as Cotto had still beaten Mosley after all.

So how would you rank Marquez, Pacquiao and Bradley situation then?

[V.WEBB]

Is he even a real welterweight by the thread starter's logic? This site sucks.

[#1Assassin]

No, by size

Hearns is my ideal REAL Welterweight

and a great Welterweight fighter is anyone who could beat him



Pacman has had a bit of an easy road too, just Floyd is more relevant atm



Duran wasn't a Welterweight, that's why his win over SRL is so impressive

and again, how many wins against real Welterweights do the rest of those guys have?

hearns is the one of the biggest WWs i have ever seen, if thats what you have to be in order to be considered a real 147lber there have only been two or three of them in the history of the sport.

in reality mosley, baldomir, DLH, canelo, cotto and ortiz are all real welterweights. they are all bigger than floyd too, along with hatton and judah who were smallish welterweights but still bigger than floyd.

[Jc8804]

When you say size what do you mean? Height? Weight?

Man meat.

I think the op is saying floyd never
Had a true welter weight meat . Its always a small guy .

He hasnt even ever beat of a true welter ,ellerbe
Isnt packing nothing more then a snail.

[WESS]

"floyd will never fight a real ww like shane mosley"

nsb 2009

end thread.

[Outwest Exp 355]

Oh but what did Shane weigh in at? Was it 142?

They took the fight at the WW limit. 2 years later.