Hagler vs Toney: Who Wins?

[WindUpMerchant]

Hagler beat Caveman Lee, Minter, Mugabi, Hearns, and Duran.

[WindUpMerchant]

Minter would knock out both Jones and Hopkins.

[Run]

Hagler never beat any natural middleweight anywhere near the level of a Michael Nunn or a Mike McCallum.

I really don't care about "natural".

Alan Minter
Fully Obel
Mustafa Hamsho
John Mugabi
Sugar Ray Leonard (Robbed)
Roberto Duran
Thomas Hearns

*sighs*

That list is ridiculous. And he just did what he did.



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[Oasis_Lad]

hagler destroys any form of toney

[JuicyJuice]

Hagler beat Caveman Lee, Minter, Mugabi, Hearns, and Duran.

I don't rate Lee, Minter or Mugabi on the same level as a Michael Nunn (even though he was a coke head by then), Mike McCallum (even though he wasn't getting any younger by then) or even Reggie Johnson (who was a very good fighter back then).

[WindUpMerchant]

Mccallum? Natural middleweight? Am I missing something here?

[JuicyJuice]

Minter would knock out both Jones and Hopkins.

Minter would of been humilated against Jones, and couldn't of beaten Hopkins.

[WindUpMerchant]

Have you forgotten the losses to Johnson, Thadzi, and Griffin?

[WindUpMerchant]

Case in point: Toney gets smacked around with any fighters that use any sort of feints.

[Run]

Yeah I disagree. These are both elite elite fighters...two of my favorites in fact. I believe that MW Hagler would have beaten MW Toney in almost every scenario...but it would NOT be a raping.

EDIT: Toney MAY have beaten the later, more worn out form of Hagler...like Juy suggested.

Toney really only has a couple...or handful of impressive victories in his entire career.

Michael Nunn
Evander Holyfield (Holy was old)
Mike Mcallum

and lets also keep in mind he lost to Drake Thadzi and Montell Griffin.

That's pretty sad, and considering Hagler never really lost a single fight.



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