Hagler vs Toney: Who Wins?

[Super_Lightweight]

HMM...well at least you have some shred of credibility. And a sense of humor.

[Run]

Minter would knock out both Jones and Hopkins.

Yeah that's some pretty ****** ****.



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[WindUpMerchant]

Hilarious thread, IMO. Both Marciano and Hagler were NEVER shown that they could be neutralized yet fighters like Toney (who is NOT in my top 10 MW's of all time) have a chance against him.

[oldgringo]

Yeah I've seen that fight.

I thought Toney recieved a major gift decision.

I've seen it as well...although it was some time back.

Johnson was a very good fighter...very underrated. He gave Toney all he could handle and legitimately dropped him. Toney surged in the late rounds and took it 7 rounds to 5, 114-113. A fight I wish I had on hand...like on my computer or something.

[realheavyhands]

damn close toney is my favorite fighter and is the highest skilled fighter since pernell whitiker but hagler would be in better shape and is a southpaw but hes a converted orthodox like winky wright so the powers in his jab and hook..which means toney could throw his right and not worry about haglers left which toney would love cuz toney loves his right.. toney would roll his shoulder on haglers jab throw a counter right and duck haglers hook at least 15-20 times

[WindUpMerchant]

No doubt Johnson was a very underappreciated fighter, but Toney can't erase the losses to Johnson, Griffin, Thadzi, Jones etc. He gets smacked around with crafty fighters.

[WindUpMerchant]

realheavyhands Hagler was a switch hitter.

[Run]

I've seen it as well...although it was some time back.

Johnson was a very good fighter...very underrated. He gave Toney all he could handle and legitimately dropped him. Toney surged in the late rounds and took it 7 rounds to 5, 114-113. A fight I wish I had on hand...like on my computer or something.

Dont get me wrong man. Toney is a GREAT fighter.

Lately I've just been thinking Hagler is god. I've been watching his old fights, and like I said.

He has never lost a fight really.........

and was undefeated for 11 years, against A class opposition.

wow.



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[JuicyJuice]

I still can't work out how Steve Collins did so well against Reggie Johnson though that was a **** version of Collins who never punched to the body and tried his best to actually box back then (even though he was white). I just think that was an off-night for Johnson.

[oldgringo]

No doubt Johnson was a very underappreciated fighter, but Toney can't erase the losses to Johnson, Griffin, Thadzi, Jones etc. He gets smacked around with crafty fighters.

He beat Johnson...again he beat him.

He does have problems with slick guys who have good footwork. Thadzi outworked him...he (Toney) was very lethargic in that fight.

Jones was possibly the worst style fight for him...and yes Jones smacked him around.