HBO Commentary, Biased/Not Biased: PacVsBradley

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

That was cringeworthy.

The card was absolute horse****. The fact that Arum thinks that fans don't care about the undercard is not defensible. I absolutely care. I haven't bought an even since the Floyd-Canelo fight because the card was strong.

Max actually tried to lightly criticize Arum on this. You get the sense that Max and Jim hate having to accept Arum's turd undercards.

stop frontin, you dont buy ppv fights because of undercards. you buy ppv fights because of the main event.

you bought the canelo fight because you are mexican, not because of "stacked" undercards.

be honest at least.

[JaguaresMx]

stop frontin, you dont buy ppv fights because of undercards. you buy ppv fights because of the main event.

you both the canelo fight because you are mexican, not because of "stacked" undercards.

be honest at least.

what, you're a mind reader? You want to see my PPV records?

I have never bought a card with Canelo as the PPV attraction other than that one. I don't enjoy watching him box. I didn't even buy the JMM-Bradley because of the weak undercard and JMM is my favorite boxer.

I bought Canelo-Floyd not due to the main event, but Matthysse-Garcia.

The main event triggers my attention, then if the undercard is worth it, I go of it. If not i'll just hit a bar.

[gamefrk]

This is why I like Max, he sees things the way they are & calls it like that.

I don't agree with Arum when he says that fans don't care about the under cards. It's true that majority of the fans buy the PPV for the main event (also reflected by the fact that most of the celebrities come in when the main even is about to start).

But if Arum puts up weak under cards, the fans wont care about those fights. On the other hand when Golden Boy put up great under cards like Matthysse Vs Danny, Khan Vs Collazo, Broner Vs Molina who wouldn't start to care? It's obvious that Golden Boy PPV's are a better value for money as compared to Top Rank ones.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

what, you're a mind reader? You want to see my PPV records?

I have never bought a card with Canelo as the PPV attraction other than that one. I don't enjoy watching him box. I didn't even buy the JMM-Bradley because of the weak undercard and JMM is my favorite boxer.

I bought Canelo-Floyd not due to the main event, but Matthysse-Garcia.

The main event triggers my attention, then if the undercard is worth it, I go of it. If not i'll just hit a bar.

you dont buy ppvs because of undercard fights, you buy it because of the main event.

you bought canelo floyd because canelo is the next big thing in mexican boxing and the fact that he was going up against floyd.

lol at a mexican buying it for lucas garcia.

come on dude.

[Rome-By-Ko]

I thought Jim was horrible as usual,and thought Roy and Max were fair..

[Rome-By-Ko]

This is why I like Max, he sees things the way they are & calls it like that.

I don't agree with Arum when he says that fans don't care about the under cards. It's true that majority of the fans buy the PPV for the main event (also reflected by the fact that most of the celebrities come in when the main even is about to start).

But if Arum puts up weak under cards, the fans wont care about those fights. On the other hand when Golden Boy put up great under cards like Matthysse Vs Danny, Khan Vs Collazo, Broner Vs Molina who wouldn't start to care? It's obvious that Golden Boy PPV's are a better value for money as compared to Top Rank ones.

The Mayweather card is trash dude..Every last fight should be on reg Showtime..Including the Mayweather Maidana fight..

[youth]

you dont buy ppvs because of undercard fights, you buy it because of the main event.

you bought canelo floyd because canelo is the next big thing in mexican boxing and the fact that he was going up against floyd.

lol at a mexican buying it for lucas garcia.

come on dude.

Yes this is true, in the short term. Long term will hurt Top Rank cause when people first buy the ppv, they buy for the main event but assumed a world class undercard as it was a major boxing event, with a world renowned promoter. Expectations are high, and since Top Rank isn't delivering time and time again is going hurt they brand. Now they going be branded as a low quality event with only one fight worth watching even when they do put on good fights cause they hurt their own rep. Top Rank needs to up their lead in bout, then the rest of the card would be fine and fall in place, a Mikey Garcia bout would be perfect lead in bout. Top Rank does have the fighters to put on good cards, they just don't do it.

[IronDanHamza]

The Top Rank commentary were very biased and poor.

Especially Mario Lopez and Larry Merchant.

[Dr Rumack]

Roy's rambling answer to Lampley's question about Pacquiao and politics was one of the highlights of the night.

Kellerman annoys me a lot of the time, but I will give him credit for the fact that he never falls victim to group-think the way the rest of the team do.

[Tay Roc]

I thought it was pretty fair. Roy was very pro-Bradley until the middle rounds where Bradley stopped doing what was working and looked lost.

Lampley was a bit pro-manny (but not over the top).

Max was Max. Fair, neutral, insightful. The best in the game.