Just rewatched Pacquiao/Bradley2, SOBER...

[New England]

You guys are forgetting. Timmy was doing a Pernell whiteaker in there.A bad on at that, but still how can punch land cleanly is all he does is duck downwards? Try hitting someone hunching. Nothing to throw not even an uppercut.

Timmy was backing, dodging, evading, without throwing. He concentrating on his defense that he forgot to throw.

That said how can you punch someone cleanly when your opponent is clearly just want to do defense and hunching? No one will look good with an opponent like that. That said Pac still found ways to land his straight left his hooks, his barrage.

I say, that is skill at the highest level. That 10punch combo he did of the ropes was a thing of beauty. Those were lethal shots that should gotten Timmy out of there. PAC was landing bombs.

if you step to the side it's quite easy to hit an opponent with a straight punch when he ducks. the striaght left or a right hand will work if you're using offensive angles that are to one side of his defensive lines.

that's what i used to do when a guy ducked my right hand and didn't weave fast enough. if they stay ducking, you throw another one. they're lined up for it. when i caught them i'd almost always hurt them bad enough to have to back off. you get a ton of power when you punch down.

timmy wasn't doing that. his head's rarely stationary, and if it is he's usually too close for a straight punch [that's where head clashes often come into play.] he's a well trained fighter. joel diaz is the real deal. if bradley hit like pacquiao he'd be a heck of a fighter, but he's just not that kind of athlete.

[daggum]

bradley literally ducked over and over in order to survive pac. floyd figuratively ducked pac over and over in order to survive.

[IronDanHamza]

Are you seriously trolling right now? He actually landed a bunch of shots in this fight, compared to the 1st fight.

The 1st fight he won more rounds, but didn't actually look great doing it. This fight he actually looked great doing it.

Why is NSB the only site that says Pac looked bad?

Go to any post fight video on youtube, and they're all saying how Pac was absolutely impressive.

I think Pacquaio look worlds better in the first fight.

I hardly recall Bradley landing any good punches in the first fight, he landed plenty last night.

Pacquaio landed better punches in the first one aswell.

He won both fights but I think it's very difficult to say he looked better last night than he did in the first one.

[bojangles1987]

Admit it. You didn't even watch the fight. He looked better in this fight than he did in their first fight. Lmao.

Did you actually say sharpness? He looked sharper in this than in the last 2 years. I was actually surprised. Also, Floyd's style isn't the style to beat Manny.

You're not beating this Manny off the back foot. And Floyd doesn't have the style where he ducks and slips then ambushes. He's straight up, and pot shot. That won't work on Manny.

Like I said before. Morales 1 is how you beat Manny. Floyd doesn't have the chin or fighting style to implement that style on Manny.

If you really want to believe I didn't watch the fight, go ahead.

He did not look better than the first fight. Bradley fought a lot better the first time, and Pac was still catching him pretty easily, enough to win easily. Last night Bradley was outfighting Pac early. He started swinging for the fences like a madman, completely wide open, looking exhausted, and Pac wasn't landing any more than he did on Bradley the first time. Pac from the first fight probably would have crushed Bradley last night.

What made the /Mayweather/Pacquiao fight so interesting once, and what had me picking Pacquiao to win that fight once upon a time, was how hard Pacquiao's whole arsenal was to handle. He was so quick and constantly moving and threw punches that were so hard to predict, and even if you did predict them he found ways to land them anyway. His volume was crazy. If you punched him in the mouth, he came at you like a madman to make up for it. Mayweather would have had a very hard time dealing with all that.

Now Pacquiao is more of an unorthodox, speedy southpaw who likes to box. He isn't going to beat Mayweather trying to box, and when he does get countered hard, whereas before he would have got pissed off and gone at Mayweather throwing combos, he'll probably just reset and keep getting countered now. He'll try those combos every so often, miss, eat a shot, rinse and repeat.

It's over, man. Pac still has the talent and skill to pose some problems, but the day where Pacquiao beats Floyd Mayweather is gone. It's horribly depressing, but it's true.

[Carpe Diem]

Here's the kicker. Bradley's style is more effective against Manny than Floyd's.

Bradley looks bad against Manny, because he doesn't have the gas tank to do what he does for all 12 rounds against Manny's speed. Guys like Morales and JMM fight that way from day 1.

Floyd doesn't fight like that, at all.

Then, you don't know **** about fighting styles and strategy. Look at the things that Floyd do well against southpaws(Left hook counter over the right jab, parry the right jab, and straight right counter, lead straight right to the head and body, feints, etc). Bradley did well when he did these things in the first half of the fight, and then he fought like he naturally always does in the second half of the fight, and fought really sloppy and wild.

Floyd does duck low and can anticipate punches better than Bradley, but he doesn't exaggerate his movements wildly off balance like Bradley tends to do. Bradley isn't on Floyd's level and neither is Pacquiao. Keep telling yourself that Floyd can't beat Manny if it makes you feel better..

[MindBat]

"Just watched pacquiao - bradley II even more f#cked up that i was last night!"



floyd mayweather would toy with 2014 manny pacquiao.


it would have at least been a competitive fight 3-4 years ago. today he toys with him. manny gets too aggressive when he actually decides to fight. floyd would present him with a target and it wouldn't be there by the time manny was throwing his combinations and stepping forward.


easy UD.

'Nough said. Easy money.

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[Hougigo]

Are you seriously trolling right now? He actually landed a bunch of shots in this fight, compared to the 1st fight.

The 1st fight he won more rounds, but didn't actually look great doing it. This fight he actually looked great doing it.

Why is NSB the only site that says Pac looked bad?

Go to any post fight video on youtube, and they're all saying how Pac was absolutely impressive.

He didn't look great in the first one? You got to be kidding me

Do you want Pac to be that dominant again that you're willing to tell yourself taht B.S lie? Pac landed mores shots in the first one.... even B.S compubox relayed that.

Seriously

[HanzGruber]

Lmao last night u were saying manny is done. And really not sure why u think manny will win so easily. Floyd is not Bradley. Tim is good no doubt but please. He's no where near as sloppy and controls the figh don't forget that

[MindBat]

Then, you don't know **** about fighting styles and strategy. Look at the things that Floyd well against southpaws like(Left hook counter of the right jab, parry the right jab, and straight right counter, straight right to the head and body, feints, etc). Bradley did well when he did those things in the first half of the fight, then he fought like he naturally always does in the second half of the fight, and fought really sloppy and wild.

Floyd does duck low and can anticipate punches better than Bradley, but he doesn't exaggerate his movements wildly off balance like Bradley tends to do. Bradley isn't on Floyd's level and neither is Pacquiao. Keep telling yourself that Floyd can't beat Manny if it makes you feel.

A 152lb Canelo beats both Pac and Bradley on that same night.

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[Spoon23]

if you step to the side it's quite easy to hit an opponent with a straight punch when he ducks. the striaght left or a right hand will work if you're using offensive angles that are to one side of his defensive lines.[/B]

that's what i used to do when a guy ducked my right hand and didn't weave fast enough. if they stay ducking, you throw another one. they're lined up for it. when i caught them i'd almost always hurt them bad enough to have to back off. you get a ton of power when you punch down.

timmy wasn't doing that. his head's rarely stationary, and if it is he's usually too close for a straight punch [that's where head clashes often come into play.] he's a well trained fighter. joel diaz is the real deal. if bradley hit like pacquiao he'd be a heck of a fighter, but he's just not that kind of athlete.

Which Pacquiao did, effectively at that, but it's not an easy thing to do and you won't look spectacular doing it. Hence he couldn't be the PAC of old. The guy was in survival mode like Mosely did to Pac.

If Pac fought Floyd it will be a chess match at the highest level. It won't be fast. They will be looking for openings. PAC won't look good coz throwing combos only looks good if a fight trades. Bradley didn't trade, Floyd won't to.

But it doesn't mean Pac is washed up. It's just certain opponents don't make you look good in a fight, coz a defensive minded fighter who don't Punch that much like Timmy won't make you look spectacular. Need to trade so Pac can throw this vicious combos all day.

If not, Pac has to play a chess match. That's what happened int he bradley 2 fight. That I expect if he ever fights Floyd to. That's A big IF.