Just rewatched Pacquiao/Bradley2, SOBER...

[_original_]

Wasn't OP on here crying last night that Pacquiao is washed up and shouldn't fight Floyd because he'd get embarrassed?

[TRTboy]

Malignaggi's perfect analysis of the fight and why I think Floyd Sr. and Jr. have been avoiding pac. They know pac has the natural style and stamina to give Floyd hell.

“Ever since I watch Floyd Mayweather he gives you a defense where he locks up. And a lot of the time obviously it works for Floyd. Floyd is very hard to hit, regardless of the fact. But I always thought that somebody with fast hands – that throws punches in bunches and throws them in flurries – might not land on Floyd – because he locks up so well – he has the ability to leave Floyd there.” - Malignaggi

“And what I mean by that is, move your hands, step out, you leave him there. Throw punches, step out. Before you know it, Floyd, if he’s giving you all this, he never gets the chance to get back off. Because you’re in and out. And that costs you rounds. Through the course of Mayweather’s career, he’s always been faster than most of his opponents. But the fast guys that he did fight did show glimpses of it. Oscar showed glimpses of that. Zab Judah showed glimpses of that – that you can do that to Floyd. The problem is you very rarely will hit him clean. So I think these guys get frustrated and get away from that. But in the meantime, what they don’t realize is that they’re probably winning rounds because Floyd is not getting off. Pacquiao doesn’t have to change anything about himself. He fights that way naturally.”

[Carpe Diem]

Your gif is an example of why this would not be an easy fight for Floyd. You can't be satisfied with dodging two punches and landing a glancing blow vs Manny. You need to throw punches in bunches in order to win against the volume of punches that Manny is going to throw and land.

Floyd doesn't want to throw a lot. He wants to dodge, land a pot shot here and there, and eek rounds out that way. That's not working vs. Manny - you have to exchange.

That's your opinion. Floyd systematically come forward against southpaws and gets off first, and sometimes he'll wait to counter the right jab with a left hook or straight right through the middle, and he'll feints and come up with variety of punches downstairs and upstairs. Floyd has can offset Manny's offense and workrate.

Manny will throw flurries, while Floyd will land the cleaner and better eye-catching punches. You can't really use this gif since it was against an orthodox fighter, and Floyd doesn't roll his shoulders against southpaws, but he's great when it comes to offset their offense. Basically, his offense is his defense against southpaws and he tends to let his hands go more against them.

[Pacquiao'd]

Manny had Bradley desperately swinging for the fences. He got caught a couple of times but controlled the second half of the fight and they were about even in the first half. He took over and started to pick him apart, reducing him to the clowning that cost him most dearly. This is against a young, prime, top level P4P guy who he first fought two years ago. He's able to put on that type of performance this late in his career, and following a devastating knockout loss. If people don't respect Manny now, I don't know what to say.

You guys are simply delusional. Bradley chose to throw haymakers after seeing he could hurt, control the pace of the fight and avoid mannys punches so he ******edly started throwing hay marker to ko PAC whilst PAC was gunshy and getting hurt, missing a lot of punches but he was smart to let Bradley tire his dumbass out.

Floyd destroys a prime PAC and I don't even want to waste my time thinking about him fighting this faded gunshy PAC

[Pacquiao'd]

You don't see what we see let it go lol

PAC is an elite. You should know that by now.

Most importantly Floyd has troubles with lefties. That's we're I stop. You get the picture

Sure he does, that's why he dominates lefties

[Toyman]

Have to agree with OP.

We just witnessed Manny toy with a top 3 p4p fighter in his prime. Meanwhile, floyd struggles to beat guys like robert guerrero (No disrespect intended, but hes not a top 10 p4p fighter imo)

2009 Manny KOs floyd within 8 rounds. 2014 manny has perhaps lost some of the explosiveness h once had, but has more than made up for it with refined technique. I say this version of manny wins a UD over floyd, in the region of 8-4/9-3.

[damned1974]

Your gif is an example of why this would not be an easy fight for Floyd. You can't be satisfied with dodging two punches and landing a glancing blow vs Manny. You need to throw punches in bunches in order to win against the volume of punches that Manny is going to throw and land.

Floyd doesn't want to throw a lot. He wants to dodge, land a pot shot here and there, and eek rounds out that way. That's not working vs. Manny - you have to exchange.

Ummm...the theory is wrong. Watch Vinny Paz vs Roger Mayweather-it is a good blueprint on how to beat a guy who uses in and out movement that is aggressive and throws combos...

[Carpe Diem]

Even when Manny was Super Manny in 2009, I think he wouldn't be able to beat the 2009 version of Floyd. He put on a great performance against Cotto, but the flaws were still there and Cotto is by no means a sharpshooter.

[SlySlickSmooth]

BUNGALOWS, come on now. You know Floyd would stink it up BAD versus Manny. I don't know why, but I kept saying Floyd could make Manny "No Mas" if he fights in his ATG POTSHOT style.


It's just I think Manny CAN hurt Floyd, aside from Timothy "ill punch u when im out on my feet" Bradley, Manny has been fighting guys that are a lot bigger on fight night. Floyd meeting Manny would be similar tonight's weight, but is Floyd's chin as great as Bradley's??

[Pacquiao'd]

Have to agree with OP.

We just witnessed Manny toy with a top 3 p4p fighter in his prime. Meanwhile, floyd struggles to beat guys like robert guerrero (No disrespect intended, but hes not a top 10 p4p fighter imo)

2009 Manny KOs floyd within 8 rounds. 2014 manny has perhaps lost some of the explosiveness h once had, but has more than made up for it with refined technique. I say this version of manny wins a UD over floyd, in the region of 8-4/9-3.

Toy? Manny was getting beat up, hurt and out boxed until Bradley thought he could neglect the gameplan thinking he was heman and could simply ko manny with haymakers. It was only then that PAC was able to look good against a sloppy and wild amateur fighting bradley