Does Pacquiao lose to Mayweather because Mayweather beat Marquez?

[L3TH4L]

Marquez's counter punching approach isn't the same as Mayweather's so that logic is flawed.

[jackson8]

Marquez is good at fighting southpaws. Mayweather avoids them. Styles man styles!

[straightleft]

no. pacs style is tailor made for floyd. pacroid would get countered all day to tko


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Tell that to your coward boy and he might drop all his ridiculous demands then fight Pac for a charity.

[Jloro]

Well Pac getting KO'ed by Marquez didn't make him look any more threatening lol

[boliodogs]

I voted no. It is certainly something that favors Mayweather to beat Pacquiao but it doesn't make him a sure thing to beat Pacquiao. Pacquiao fights completely different than Marquez. He has a very fast attack and he throws lots of fast punches from different angles and he is a lefty. He is much faster on his feet than Marquez and uses that foot speed for his in and out attacks. Pacquiao easily out did Mayweather when he KO Hatton in 2 rounds instead of the 10 rounds it took for Mayweather to KO Hatton. He KOed Cotto and Oscar with ease while Floyd has a bit of trouble with them and failed to win by KO.

[JDD1]

Full question: Does Pacquiao lose to Mayweather because Mayweather beat Marquez and Marquez beat Pacquiao?

Basically, do you think Floyd Mayweather would beat Manny Pacquiao because of each fighter's performance against Juan Manuel Marquez, a common opponent?

Marquez definitively beat Pacquiao.

But...

Marquez definitively lost to Mayweather.

So, does Pacquiao lose to Mayweather because of this?

Pacquiao and Marquez are evenly matched, with the slight edge in favor of Marquez.

Whereas Mayweather and Marquez was a mismatch.

In this screenshot of a YouTube comment, a guy uses mathematic logic to rationalize why Pacquiao would lose to Mayweather.


In mathematics, this is known as the transitive property.

Floyd Mayweather > Juan Manuel Marquez > Manny Pacquiao

Therefore,

Floyd Mayweather > Manny Pacquiao

A > B > C

Therefore,

A > C

To me, this reasoning is flatout wrong. Styles make fights, and Pacquiao gives Mayweather all sorts of problems, resulting in a win by decision or a win by TKO. Triangle theories are not true in boxing. If they were, George Foreman would have beaten Muhammad Ali.

The reasoning is flat out wrong, I agree with you.

However I think casual fans believe this strongly in all sports.

[John Locke]

Of course not.

Marquez and Floyd are completely different types of counter punchers and overall have very different styles.

Anyone who uses triangle theories in boxing clearly doesn't understand the sport.

[junior gong]

Full question: Does Pacquiao lose to Mayweather because Mayweather beat Marquez and Marquez beat Pacquiao?

Basically, do you think Floyd Mayweather would beat Manny Pacquiao because of each fighter's performance against Juan Manuel Marquez, a common opponent?

Marquez definitively beat Pacquiao.

But...

Marquez definitively lost to Mayweather.

So, does Pacquiao lose to Mayweather because of this?

Pacquiao and Marquez are evenly matched, with the slight edge in favor of Marquez.

Whereas Mayweather and Marquez was a mismatch.

In this screenshot of a YouTube comment, a guy uses mathematic logic to rationalize why Pacquiao would lose to Mayweather.


In mathematics, this is known as the transitive property.

Floyd Mayweather > Juan Manuel Marquez > Manny Pacquiao

Therefore,

Floyd Mayweather > Manny Pacquiao

A > B > C

Therefore,

A > C

To me, this reasoning is flatout wrong. Styles make fights, and Pacquiao gives Mayweather all sorts of problems, resulting in a win by decision or a win by TKO. Triangle theories are not true in boxing. If they were, George Foreman would have beaten Muhammad Ali.

Floydspastics truly believe this.

[MDPopescu]

This fight must happen eventually.
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[Strategic1]

JMM already spent 36 rounds in the ring with Pacquiao. Fighting with the same opponent has its advantages.

In a fight with PAC, it would be interesting to see if Mayweather can time him right and if can deal with PAC's unorthodox style and speed.

It might take Floyd a couple of rounds just to start to solve the puzzle.

Its all about styles.