Mayweather Catch Weight vs Canelo Is A Criminally Underrated ***** Move

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  • richardt
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    #51
    I have to admit, it was fun watching a good portion Floyd's mindless minions implode when Floyd did what he (AND THEY) chastised Pac for doing. It was quite a fallout in the aftermath of Floyd's hypocrisy. Pure entertainment to watch.
    Last edited by richardt; 03-31-2014, 03:08 PM.

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    • JDD1
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      #52
      Originally posted by ADP02
      Canelo said it BEFORE signing, during signing, training camp and so on. Perhaps you missed it but Canelo said this on I believe ALL ACCESS "The toughest part about my training camp was having to go down to 152"

      Chavez/sweet pea: Chavez wasn't going into the fight with a WW title.

      Oscar vs Sturm: Oscar tried it there and struggled. Some say he should have lost. So instead of going back up he fought at 157 against a much bigger challenge named Hopkins. This was NOT the same scenario as Floyd. Floyd was #1 P4P who already fought at 154 twice got a title each time and was going for fight #3 at WW...... Floyd was the clear favorite. That is what I was asking NOT what you came back with!

      Excuse? Yup, in this thread I'm finding plenty of them coming from Floyd fans.


      Floyd fans prior to Floyd vs Canelo and now, it's like day and night. This is why others like myself are having a bit of fun today ....
      You are making infinitely small points to try and make what one guy did worse than the others when its all the same. I get what you are doing now.

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      • ADP02
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        #53
        Originally posted by JDD1
        on the one hand you are criticizing foyd for the CW fight based solely on what he said about Manny v cotto. Yes, floyd is a hypocrite and desreves to be called ut for it.

        on the other hand, you are saying that fighting at a cw in a unification bout is something never seen before. in fact it has been done several other times. In that case you are wrong. So if you are going to criticize floyd for that it would seem you should have criticized the others for it as well. At the very least, it isn't something unprcedented as many have suggested.
        I never said that it was or wasn't (Never happened before) but the point was that Floyd and his fans were complaining every day of the week about CWs prior to that fight even though Floyd was already involved in something more disgraceful when he came in at 146 vs Marquez.

        What made Floyd's even funnier is that his involved being in his 3rd fight at 154 and even though he was #1 P4P, had gotten a title twice already at 154, defending it and fighting someone who he knows would struggle to make 152. Just 1 year prior, it was so bad for Floyd to do a CW that he would consider a loss by one as NOT A LOSS .... "Cotto is undefeated"

        To clarify on CWs, IMO, to get a fight on and both agree and it will hopefully not affect either adversely, why not. I'd rather see a good fight than none .... but for Floyd, Ellerbe, Floyd fans to come back and put all these excuses is laughable!

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          #54
          Floyd should go to jail, he obviously held a gun to Canelo's head and made him sign the contract.

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            #55
            Originally posted by ADP02
            I never said that it was or wasn't (Never happened before) but the point was that Floyd and his fans were complaining every day of the week about CWs prior to that fight even though Floyd was already involved in something more disgraceful when he came in at 146 vs Marquez.

            What made Floyd's even funnier is that his involved being in his 3rd fight at 154 and even though he was #1 P4P, had gotten a title twice already at 154, defending it and fighting someone who he knows would struggle to make 152. Just 1 year prior, it was so bad for Floyd to do a CW that he would consider a loss by one as NOT A LOSS .... "Cotto is undefeated"

            To clarify on CWs, IMO, to get a fight on and both agree and it will hopefully not affect either adversely, why not. I'd rather see a good fight than none .... but for Floyd, Ellerbe, Floyd fans to come back and put all these excuses is laughable!
            Ellerbe said that CW's give fighters problems (not exact quote) at the time of the Manny cotto fight in 2009. My guess is you and others disagreed with that. If you disagreed with it then, you should do same for all cw's IMO.

            Then floyd said he thought cotto was undefated because The manny fight was at a CW and Margs used plaster. He also said he wanted his opponents comfortable. Clearly he was trying to hype the Cotto fight. If you wont acknowledge that fine.

            Floyd deserves every bit of criticism for being a hypocrite on CW's. But his doing it is no worse than any other fighter doing it and to try and make his worse because it was a unification is silly.

            I get it now, you are having fun at floyd and his fans exspense and being hyper critical of floyd.

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            • richardt
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              #56
              Originally posted by PACnPBFsuck
              Floyd should go to jail, he obviously held a gun to Canelo's head and made him sign the contract.
              Floyd didn't need a gun to make himself look like a hypocrite. Floyd said: " I DONT DO CATCHWEIGHTS! I AM NOT THAT TYPE OF GUY! AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, COTTO IS STILL UNDEFEATED!". And he may not have gone to jail over that but he boxed himself in with his hypocrisy and his little moral rant which backfired on him.
              Last edited by richardt; 03-31-2014, 03:28 PM.

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              • ADP02
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                #57
                Originally posted by PACnPBFsuck
                Floyd should go to jail, he obviously held a gun to Canelo's head and made him sign the contract.
                If Canelo didn't sign (agree)? Canelo = Manny Pacquiao = No Fight

                So in actuality, going by history, it was like holding a gun to Canelo's head. Canelo and his team said the same. They felt like if they hadn't agreed, then there would be no fight.
                Last edited by ADP02; 03-31-2014, 03:29 PM.

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                • Da Machine
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                  #58
                  It's a truly undefendable act, yet people defend. It's funny as hell.

                  I'm mean look. Canelo couldn't even make 154 5 months later. I kinda think he paid 100k to say, hey look everyone. Floyd drained me.

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                  • UTEP
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                    #59
                    Canelo's still an undefeated fighter, just ask Ellerbe and Mayweather.


                    "He was a dead man walking when he went into the ring," Ellerbe said. "The casual fan doesn't know what difference one or two pounds can make when a fighter is already down to weight. Fighters know."


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                    • Luilun
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Red Slider
                      I'm not one to be on Mayweather ducking people, as I think that is extrememly overstated, however......

                      What do you think about it? Makes absolutely no sense when Mayweather had fought at a full 154 twice before.


                      WTF was that all about anyways.
                      It was to weaken him remember health comes first and he couldn't take punches from a strong Canelo it might effect his health

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