Comments Thread For: Roach Says Plan in Place For Sergio Martinez's Speed

[thatdudespits]

Speed?? What speed are you referring to when it comes to cotto? foh. Cotto had good speed as an amateur & on his way up. Once he moved into 47 that died down. Cotto's biggest asset is his excellent timing (particularly w/ a strong jab...which is his dominant hand) What was able to put down both Gomez & Clottey was the precise timing of the jab. That will disrupt Sergio for sure somewhat. And defense... Cotto will come in crouched behind a double arm bar defense & will get beaten to the punch & have his offense muted throughout the night. Cotto is way too methodical in his approach to win this fight. He will fight much like all the fighters after the Dzinzurik fight...He will wait wait wait & not engage...only in small bursts. But Sergio will impose his range & footwork & power to keep him at bay. It's funny bc initially I thought this fight would end in a ko. But I am beginning to realize it will be a pretty dull fight w/ its moments in spots. Sergio hits hard (so hard that Cintron thought he got head butted...but it was a str left.) & Cotto will not be apt to engage. & Ssegio will dance & posture & pot-shot him all night. Please don't let Miguel run out of steam as "history has shown." It's over when he does & Martiniez gets that patented 2nd wind around rd 7-8. It could get ugly. As far as ur claim of defense...Dude I don't need compubox numbers to see who has taken the least punishment in their fights....it's not hard to find miguel. & In over 50+ fights Martinez has not once been battered even w/ his hands low style. Cotto gets a c+/B- in Defense at best. & lastly, the one factor I thinlk many people are overlooking is Martinez's corner & having a full strength training crew w/ Gabby Sarmiento back from exile. People forget the intelligence that crew came up w/ during the time of Serg's accent. They were brilliant. I have seen a small decline since his departure in their inability to adjust in fights. But I expect that to disappear on june 7th. You can bet that team Maravilla will have an excellent A,B,& C plan in place to defeat cotto. & Sincethey are boldly predicting a ko I am expecting them to be fully prepared. Usually Roach predicts a Ko...He's been as quiet as a church mouse in that regard.

Stats from each fighters last 6 fights

Murray- Punches Thrown- 548/ % Landed- 29%/ Rounds-12
Williams- Punches Thrown- 105/ % Landed- 31% / Rounds- 2
Macklin- Punches Thrown- 461/ % Landed- 29% / Rounds- 11
Barker- Punches Thrown- 408/ % Landed- 38%/ Rounds- 11
Dzinziruk- Punches Thrown- 413/% Landed- 39%/ Rounds-8
Chavez – Punches Thrown- 390/ % Landed 46%/Rounds- 12 56 rounds
2,325 Punches Thrown
Against Cotto...
Mayorga- Punches Thrown- 522/% Landed- 30%/ Rounds- 12
Margarito-Punches Thrown-700/ % Landed 22%/ Rounds- 10
Trout- Punches Thrown- 779/ % Landed 29%/Rounds- 12
Mayweather- Punches Thrown- 687/ % Landed- 26%/ Rounds- 12
Foreman- Punches Thrown- 281/ % Landed- 25%/ Rounds- 9
Rodriguez- Punches Thrown- 68/ % Landed- 24%/ Rounds- 3 58 rounds
3,037 Punches Thrown
Over about the same amount of rounds, Cotto’s opponents threw 712 more punches than Martinez opponents. Sounds like Cotto's opponents were more competitive. Martinez’s opponents landed at a higher percentage than Cotto’s opponents. By the way, I did say the last 6 fights.
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Murray- Punches Thrown- 548/ % Landed- 29%/ Rounds-12
Williams- Punches Thrown- 105/ % Landed- 31% / Rounds- 2
Macklin- Punches Thrown- 461/ % Landed- 29% / Rounds- 11
Barker- Punches Thrown- 408/ % Landed- 38%/ Rounds- 11
Dzinziruk- Punches Thrown- 413/% Landed- 39%/ Rounds-8
Chavez – Punches Thrown- 390/ % Landed 46%/Rounds- 12 56 rounds
2,325 Punches Thrown
Against Cotto...
Mayorga- Punches Thrown- 522/% Landed- 30%/ Rounds- 12
Margarito-Punches Thrown-700/ % Landed 22%/ Rounds- 10
Trout- Punches Thrown- 779/ % Landed 29%/Rounds- 12
Mayweather- Punches Thrown- 687/ % Landed- 26%/ Rounds- 12
Foreman- Punches Thrown- 281/ % Landed- 25%/ Rounds- 9
Rodriguez- Punches Thrown- 68/ % Landed- 24%/ Rounds- 3 58 rounds
3,037 Punches Thrown
Over about the same amount of rounds, Cotto’s opponents threw 712 more punches than Martinez opponents. Sounds like Cotto's opponents were more competitive. Martinez’s opponents landed at a higher percentage than Cotto’s opponents. By the way, I did say the last 6 fights.
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[Da Boxer]

All these posters writing Cotto out. I want to see them come Jun 8th. They will be hiding.

Miguel will prevail and will quiet all the nay say'rs.

[freedom213]

Stats from each fighters last 6 fights

Murray- Punches Thrown- 548/ % Landed- 29%/ Rounds-12
Williams- Punches Thrown- 105/ % Landed- 31% / Rounds- 2
Macklin- Punches Thrown- 461/ % Landed- 29% / Rounds- 11
Barker- Punches Thrown- 408/ % Landed- 38%/ Rounds- 11
Dzinziruk- Punches Thrown- 413/% Landed- 39%/ Rounds-8
Chavez – Punches Thrown- 390/ % Landed 46%/Rounds- 12 56 rounds
2,325 Punches Thrown
Against Cotto...
Mayorga- Punches Thrown- 522/% Landed- 30%/ Rounds- 12
Margarito-Punches Thrown-700/ % Landed 22%/ Rounds- 10
Trout- Punches Thrown- 779/ % Landed 29%/Rounds- 12
Mayweather- Punches Thrown- 687/ % Landed- 26%/ Rounds- 12
Foreman- Punches Thrown- 281/ % Landed- 25%/ Rounds- 9
Rodriguez- Punches Thrown- 68/ % Landed- 24%/ Rounds- 3 58 rounds
3,037 Punches Thrown
Over about the same amount of rounds, Cotto’s opponents threw 712 more punches than Martinez opponents. Sounds like Cotto's opponents were more competitive. Martinez’s opponents landed at a higher percentage than Cotto’s opponents. By the way, I did say the last 6 fights.
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Murray- Punches Thrown- 548/ % Landed- 29%/ Rounds-12
Williams- Punches Thrown- 105/ % Landed- 31% / Rounds- 2
Macklin- Punches Thrown- 461/ % Landed- 29% / Rounds- 11
Barker- Punches Thrown- 408/ % Landed- 38%/ Rounds- 11
Dzinziruk- Punches Thrown- 413/% Landed- 39%/ Rounds-8
Chavez – Punches Thrown- 390/ % Landed 46%/Rounds- 12 56 rounds
2,325 Punches Thrown
Against Cotto...
Mayorga- Punches Thrown- 522/% Landed- 30%/ Rounds- 12
Margarito-Punches Thrown-700/ % Landed 22%/ Rounds- 10
Trout- Punches Thrown- 779/ % Landed 29%/Rounds- 12
Mayweather- Punches Thrown- 687/ % Landed- 26%/ Rounds- 12
Foreman- Punches Thrown- 281/ % Landed- 25%/ Rounds- 9
Rodriguez- Punches Thrown- 68/ % Landed- 24%/ Rounds- 3 58 rounds
3,037 Punches Thrown
Over about the same amount of rounds, Cotto’s opponents threw 712 more punches than Martinez opponents. Sounds like Cotto's opponents were more competitive. Martinez’s opponents landed at a higher percentage than Cotto’s opponents. By the way, I did say the last 6 fights.
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thank you very interesting

Whats interesting ito me is the fight strategy each camp will select to achieve victory. Looking at comments and my personal su****ions is that Sergio feels like he should punish and KO the smaller Cotto, relatively easy. I believe they will adopt a strategy that will limit Martinez moving excessively and attempt to use harder stronger punches, focusing on the straight left to do damage. That's not necessarily a bad strategy against a smaller fighter but that's also not a Sergio Martinez fighting style. The only other way I see camp Martinez going is his usual, lots of circular movement, lots of head movement, fast paced. I don't think that's particularly smart considering his inactivity, age, recent injuries (plural) and recent performances, lack luster against guys with less than stellar talent and skills....

Cotto has to be in great shape again, like was for the Rodriguez fight, he has to show Martinez things that he isn't used to seeing, lots of smart boxing and movement, working that body hard and his own fast feet and circular movement away from the left. He has to utilize a quick straight right, like he did against Quinatana to get Martinez to forget about Cottos left. At times he needs to make Martinez come to him, counter punching him and setting up traps in the corner, then capitalizing on them. He needs to be fierce in these scenarios and punish Sergio hard upstairs and down. If Martinez has to deviate and start moving like the old Martinez he will burn out quick. Dont forget he cant run until April so his stamina will indeed be in question..

Intriguing fight that could setup some interesting fights as well.

[champion4ever]

If I was Freddie Roach, Sergio's speed would be the least of my concerns. My greatest concern would be his size and power as he's naturally the larger and stronger opponent.

[thatdudespits]

thank you very interesting

Whats interesting ito me is the fight strategy each camp will select to achieve victory. Looking at comments and my personal su****ions is that Sergio feels like he should punish and KO the smaller Cotto, relatively easy. I believe they will adopt a strategy that will limit Martinez moving excessively and attempt to use harder stronger punches, focusing on the straight left to do damage. That's not necessarily a bad strategy against a smaller fighter but that's also not a Sergio Martinez fighting style. The only other way I see camp Martinez going is his usual, lots of circular movement, lots of head movement, fast paced. I don't think that's particularly smart considering his inactivity, age, recent injuries (plural) and recent performances, lack luster against guys with less than stellar talent and skills....

Cotto has to be in great shape again, like was for the Rodriguez fight, he has to show Martinez things that he isn't used to seeing, lots of smart boxing and movement, working that body hard and his own fast feet and circular movement away from the left. He has to utilize a quick straight right, like he did against Quinatana to get Martinez to forget about Cottos left. At times he needs to make Martinez come to him, counter punching him and setting up traps in the corner, then capitalizing on them. He needs to be fierce in these scenarios and punish Sergio hard upstairs and down. If Martinez has to deviate and start moving like the old Martinez he will burn out quick. Dont forget he cant run until April so his stamina will indeed be in question..

Intriguing fight that could setup some interesting fights as well.

good analysis.

[mistermartin]

Can I use your crystal ball for the next mega millions drawing?

If Shane Mosley, and Manny Pacquiao say you have good speed, and in the majority of your fights you have a hand speed advantage, that means you have good speed.

There aren't 2 levels of speed, extremely fast, and slow. There's lots of In between

I will repost, just for you the numbers that clearly show has very solid defense at 154.

Roach predicted an 8th round KO... said Martinez is a great soccer player and a secondary fighter. He hasn't been quiet at all.

We will see on june 7th who's the better fighter.

Yeah. We will see. I didn't read anything about a KO coming from Cotto's side. Cotto has good speed. But as u said ANNND I said. It's relative. The only time u saw a distinct diff in handspeed from Miguel from 47 & up was vs Tony. Other than that..it''s his timing that stands out. & bc he is a South paw who fights ortho...there isn't even the balanced danger from his str right vs Sergio's str left. He poses a threat to Martinez's liver bc its exposed on a southpaw wen he shoot the jab & is actually extended fwd. But Martinez's movement & own pwr shots & jab can nullify that threat. I am a cotto fan. But the only big fight he's really won was vs Shane. & even then that fight is debatable bc mosley came on late while cotto faded & decided to do his terrible back pedal dance moves. Far as ur argument that manny & shane attest to cottos speed....save it. I saw the fights. All I need is the eye test. Cotto is at a distinct speed disadvantage vs a larger opponent. He's also at a pwr disadvantage. You can also save the defense argument as well...I can use the eyes to tell me the story over numbers here too. Like I said b4..Cotto has no real advantages in this fight besides the hope that his opponent has faded. & what competitor in his right mind would willingly expose a weakness to his opponent b4 a contest? Does that make sense to you??? No. It doesn't People think that bc SM hasn't been running he hasn't been working cardio at all. He's a cyclist....they also work in the water. Name the last elite fighter Cotto has walked down. Trust me...once he gets hit hard. He'll revert to his shell & survive the fight. I'll be there live. So I can really come back & report to you.

[Da Boxer]

I sure hope all these Sergio supporters will give King Cotto his due credit after he beats ***y Bailarina since none seems to give Miguel a chance of victory.

[mistermartin]

Stats from each fighters last 6 fights

Murray- Punches Thrown- 548/ % Landed- 29%/ Rounds-12
Williams- Punches Thrown- 105/ % Landed- 31% / Rounds- 2
Macklin- Punches Thrown- 461/ % Landed- 29% / Rounds- 11
Barker- Punches Thrown- 408/ % Landed- 38%/ Rounds- 11
Dzinziruk- Punches Thrown- 413/% Landed- 39%/ Rounds-8
Chavez – Punches Thrown- 390/ % Landed 46%/Rounds- 12 56 rounds
2,325 Punches Thrown
Against Cotto...
Mayorga- Punches Thrown- 522/% Landed- 30%/ Rounds- 12
Margarito-Punches Thrown-700/ % Landed 22%/ Rounds- 10
Trout- Punches Thrown- 779/ % Landed 29%/Rounds- 12
Mayweather- Punches Thrown- 687/ % Landed- 26%/ Rounds- 12
Foreman- Punches Thrown- 281/ % Landed- 25%/ Rounds- 9
Rodriguez- Punches Thrown- 68/ % Landed- 24%/ Rounds- 3 58 rounds
3,037 Punches Thrown
Over about the same amount of rounds, Cotto’s opponents threw 712 more punches than Martinez opponents. Sounds like Cotto's opponents were more competitive. Martinez’s opponents landed at a higher percentage than Cotto’s opponents. By the way, I did say the last 6 fights.
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Murray- Punches Thrown- 548/ % Landed- 29%/ Rounds-12
Williams- Punches Thrown- 105/ % Landed- 31% / Rounds- 2
Macklin- Punches Thrown- 461/ % Landed- 29% / Rounds- 11
Barker- Punches Thrown- 408/ % Landed- 38%/ Rounds- 11
Dzinziruk- Punches Thrown- 413/% Landed- 39%/ Rounds-8
Chavez – Punches Thrown- 390/ % Landed 46%/Rounds- 12 56 rounds
2,325 Punches Thrown
Against Cotto...
Mayorga- Punches Thrown- 522/% Landed- 30%/ Rounds- 12
Margarito-Punches Thrown-700/ % Landed 22%/ Rounds- 10
Trout- Punches Thrown- 779/ % Landed 29%/Rounds- 12
Mayweather- Punches Thrown- 687/ % Landed- 26%/ Rounds- 12
Foreman- Punches Thrown- 281/ % Landed- 25%/ Rounds- 9
Rodriguez- Punches Thrown- 68/ % Landed- 24%/ Rounds- 3 58 rounds
3,037 Punches Thrown
Over about the same amount of rounds, Cotto’s opponents threw 712 more punches than Martinez opponents. Sounds like Cotto's opponents were more competitive. Martinez’s opponents landed at a higher percentage than Cotto’s opponents. By the way, I did say the last 6 fights.
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The story that your numbers fail to tell is the actual punishment absorbed by Miguel cotto vs martinez. It also fails to show the pedigree of fighter each man has faced. Not to mention the fighting strategy employed. There are fewer punches coming from SM opps (which are all better than cotto's minus Mayweather) bc they all clammed up & did not engage in trying to win or actually throw punches. Martinez's power muted all of their offense. Also...Who has the higher win % & ko ratio in those fights?? Martinez only has one legitimate loss on his resume...vs Tony back wen he was young. & he still didn't take the punishment Miguel took vs margarito....In Both fights. (Bob saved miguel in Part II by the way.) My eyes saw margarito heating up & miguel getting touched & slowing down. Miguel's face looked like hell even tho he got hit significantly less by Margarito. I'm not sure wut ****in defense u are referring to. Also...Wild card is scarcely known for churning out defensive wiz kids. Just look at manny thru the yrs...Khan...Provo...these ninjas don't know the meaning of defense. Cotto was responsible defensively under the Cuban trainer Pedro Diaz. But definitely not under roach....Pain & fear after getting touched will make it so vs Martinez.

[mistermartin]

I sure hope all these Sergio supporters will give King Cotto his due credit after he beats ***y Bailarina since none seems to give Miguel a chance of victory.

If he performs well...he'll deserve the credit. Otherwise....he has no advantages in the fight. But what will u be coming back & saying if he gets demolished on that night?

[sdcluser]

Legendary Trainer Freddie Roach confirms that Miguel Cotto (38-4, 31KOs) can count on the invaluable help and experience of Manny Pacquiao in the build up to his fight against Sergio "Maravilla" Martinez (51-2-2, 28KOs).

“He will be training two weeks with Pacquiao. They're good friends so there won’t be problems with anything. We will train one week in Los Angeles and the last part with Manny in Vegas, "Roach said.
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The difference is that Sergio hits much harder.

Plan A) Spar with Pacquiao

Plan B) Take the knee when realizing Sergio hits like a mutha

Plan C) When all fails, refer to Plan B)