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  • #81
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
    You can't say he was a world class fighter, you can't see he was the greatest martial artist ever and most importantly you can't call him a fighter at all. Since, he wasn't a fighter, never has been a fighter and obviously never will be a fighter. You have to have fights to be called a "fighter".
    He was pretty good at doing exhibitions showing how to do moves on human dummies, I suppose. I know he was trained in some styles, and trained others those styles. That doesn't mean you are a fighter though obviously.

    Don't see how that means he can fight. There's nothing to suggest he can fight.
    Get outta here with this trash, don't you ever give it a rest? Theres plenty of anecdotal evidence to know Lee fought many times. If you have people saying what it was like to be beat by bruce lee, of course he fought.

    Jim Kelly said Bruce lee was untouchable and hes a guy who trained with the Gracies.. Skipper mullins said hed pick Lee in any street situation.

    There are many martial artists on record saying how amazing Bruce lee was in sparring sessions and how Bruce lee beat them with ease. So I take that as Lee having fought, and no one being able to test him.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
      Get outta here with this trash, don't you ever give it a rest? Theres plenty of anecdotal evidence to know Lee fought many times. If you have people saying what it was like to be beat by bruce lee, of course he fought.

      Jim Kelly said Bruce lee was untouchable and hes a guy who trained with the Gracies.. Skipper mullins said hed pick Lee in any street situation.

      There are many martial artists on record saying how amazing Bruce lee was in sparring sessions and how Bruce lee beat them with ease. So I take that as Lee having fought, and no one being able to test him.
      You mean as opposed to actual evidence of which there is none.

      Just accept that he was a smoke and mirrors charlatan.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
        lol I'm inclined to agree.

        One of the great myths martial arts perpetuates is that size is unimportant in a fight. Maybe there's some truth to that when you take a big, untrained, un-athletic guy and pit him against a guy like Bruce. But you take your average 5'9" 170 lb karate black belt and put him against Lawrence Taylor? lol LT's going to jail for manslaughter.
        Exactly. LT is a 6'3 237 lb. elite, world class athlete that can run faster than most human beings could dream of. The amount of power he generates when tackling another elite, world class athlete is crazy.

        He'd get at Bruce so fast, and bash his head against a wall or just snatch him up by his shirt collar, and slam him into the concrete.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
          Get outta here with this trash, don't you ever give it a rest? Theres plenty of anecdotal evidence to know Lee fought many times. If you have people saying what it was like to be beat by bruce lee, of course he fought.

          Jim Kelly said Bruce lee was untouchable and hes a guy who trained with the Gracies.. Skipper mullins said hed pick Lee in any street situation.

          There are many martial artists on record saying how amazing Bruce lee was in sparring sessions and how Bruce lee beat them with ease. So I take that as Lee having fought, and no one being able to test him.
          Provide that please. Because I've been searching a while and haven't come accross any fights both Amateur and professional. So please show me because I'd love to read on it.

          Also, which sparring sessions are these? Were they wearing headgear? What size were the gloves? Were they actually sparring or just messing around? Is there footage of any?

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          • #85
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
            Chuck Norris is entirely different because he was a professional fighter and had professional fights against other world class professionals of his profession.

            Bruce Lee had not a single fight in his entire life.
            It's like Bojangles said, unless you think many people in the martial arts community are lying, Lee fought. Exactly how well is the real question, in my opinion. There are many accounts of the man being good to great, depending on who's being interviewed. Respected martial artists have spoken positively about Bruce's skills. I can't see that being possible unless they had some real verification. I've already expressed most of my views on the matter. I think Bruce was exceptional in many ways, but that his legend has grown out of all proportion.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by BUNGALOWS View Post
              Exactly. LT is a 6'3 237 lb. elite, world class athlete that can run faster than most human beings could dream of. The amount of power he generates when tackling another elite, world class athlete is crazy.

              He'd get at Bruce so fast, and bash his head against a wall or just snatch him up by his shirt collar, and slam him into the concrete.
              It's natural to lean on an athlete to beat an actor but they both have the same actual fighting experience so it's really impossible to tell.

              I get what you're getting at though.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Spray_resistant View Post
                You mean as opposed to actual evidence of which there is none.

                Just accept that he was a smoke and mirrors charlatan.
                Well all the accounts of what Lee did to them is evidence as martial artists don't like admitting an actor beat them afterall. Bradley wont even admit Pac beat him and the whole world saw it.

                What does this post even mean? You are asking me to accept everyone is a liar, I cant do that im afraid i'll leave it up to jealous haters who've obviously got a problem like you to do the liar accusations.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Spray_resistant View Post
                  Based on movies you have seen and fights he never had?
                  physicality, ego

                  there have been plenty of guys with not much amatuer experience and started to box late and did well
                  and alot of times boxing matches are won by the guy in better shape

                  i think he could easily pad his career to 20-0, be a decent contender, maybe win a title vs a weak-ish holder, nothing atg, but decent, decent enough to beat billy dib

                  in boxing i imagine bruce lee a bit like a southpaw bradley, with moments of pressuring, inside fighting and a great chin but can also move fairly well although his strengths would lie in his crazy conditioning and work-rate
                  his defense i think is what would be fairly poor though or atleast be highly dependent on his footspeed
                  Last edited by SplitSecond; 03-25-2014, 06:38 PM.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
                    It's like Bojangles said, unless you think many people in the martial arts community are lying, Lee fought. Exactly how well is the real question, in my opinion. There are many accounts of the man being good to great, depending on who's being interviewed. Respected martial artists have spoken positively about Bruce's skills. I can't see that being possible unless they had some real verification. I've already expressed most of my views on the matter. I think Bruce was exceptional in many ways, but that his legend has grown out of all proportion.
                    Well, no he didn't fight. That's a fact. He had no fights both professional and amateur.

                    He might have had some sparring sessions or something but since when is that fighting? I've had sparring sessions in my life, doesn't make me a fighter. You have to actually have fights to be fighter.

                    And I do believe many people in the martial artist community lie about Bruce Lee anyway. Because that's the way it's been since I can remember watching his films.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
                      Well all the accounts of what Lee did to them is evidence as martial artists don't like admitting an actor beat them afterall. Bradley wont even admit Pac beat him and the whole world saw it.

                      What does this post even mean? You are asking me to accept everyone is a liar, I cant do that im afraid i'll leave it up to jealous haters who've obviously got a problem like you to do the liar accusations.
                      Everyone saw pac beat Bradley, it was a live pro fight so that is a bad comparison.

                      Accept that he was not a fighter I.E one who fights because he never did and gossip/rumors about things there is no evidence at all ever took place is meaningless and should be dismissed.

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