Keith Thurman v Julio Diaz on April 24th

[Dean_Razorback]

i was expecting better opponents for both

[sbbigmike]

This is the classic set up fight where a up and comer is given a fight to look good in to set up something bigger. There really isn't anything wrong with it.

I can understand your frustration but lets be real. It took some ATG's, ex chavez and duran, ATG, 50-70 fights before they fought someone who even had a pulse.

Is it possible that modern fans have lost all perspective?

Thurman has had 3 fights to look good

Vs Zavek, in one of the ugliest matches I ssen in the last 2 years.......

Vs. Chaves, a handpicked eurobum that surprisingly was boxing the shyt out of him and was arguably leading before he mentally quit and folded after a lucky fluke Thurman body shot

Vs Karrass, a nobody fighter that Buzzed him and gave him all hell

With GB loaded stable from 140-254 how are those not set up fights.........Like I say Hype jobs will continue to hype job though


Perspective my ass. Duran SRL, Mayweather, ODH, Pacquaio all had to face names and all had HOF bodies on their resume before they got to the point where they could pick and chose opponents, it's people like you who has lost perspective....................

[BrokenHat]

Guererro doesn't want to fight him.

Not many do.

Is this true? Did the Ghost duck him?

Diaz is not a bad fight. He drew with Porter, in an excellent performance.

And gave Amir Khan a major headache too! Although, he did say he didn't go after Khan because Khan had hurt him, so I don't know if he'll be able to hang with Thurman if Khan was hurting Diaz.

Maybe it is a terrible fight. Thurman Chaves II wouldve been awesome, but I think this fight is good for Thurmans career, especially if he scores another KO.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

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Originally Posted by The Big Dunn

This is the classic set up fight where a up and comer is given a fight to look good in to set up something bigger. There really isn't anything wrong with it.

I can understand your frustration but lets be real. It took some ATG's, ex chavez and duran, ATG, 50-70 fights before they fought someone who even had a pulse.

Is it possible that modern fans have lost all perspective?

Thurman has had 3 fights to look good

Vs Zavek, in one of the ugliest matches I ssen in the last 2 years.......

Vs. Chaves, a handpicked eurobum that surprisingly was boxing the shyt out of him and was arguably leading before he mentally quit and folded after a lucky fluke Thurman body shot

Vs Karrass, a nobody fighter that Buzzed him and gave him all hell

With GB loaded stable from 140-254 how are those not set up fights.........Like I say Hype jobs will continue to hype job though


Perspective my ass. Duran SRL, Mayweather, ODH, Pacquaio all had to face names and all had HOF bodies on their resume before they got to the point where they could pick and chose opponents, it's people like you who has lost perspective....................

Well, there you guys have it...

Argentina = Europe

Sad thing is, you're not even trolling.


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[sbbigmike]

Thats because showtime wasn't around, come on man. The reality is holyfield, SRL, floyd, and other fighters who got huge fights at a young age are the exception not the rule. The reality is most fighters, especially stars, are brought along slowly and usually amass a spectacular record on the backs of a string of inferior fighters before getting their big shot.

Again, I can understand frustration. But i think part of the problem is this ridiculous, erroneous misconception that ATG fighters started fighting great fighters immediately. There is nothing farther from the truth.

Immediately?.....has Thurman not been calling out Mayweather and every other top dog for 2-3 years now, yet we have seen nothing but tumbleweeds, miss me with the Thurman ass kissing

[The Big Dunn]

I know that, but it is now.
All three of these fights are gonna be on Showtime.... Even Maidana went back to Argentina to fight the opposition you're talking about.

Since Showtime knows HBO is fully out of April except for the PPV, they're doing whatever they want then.

We're also made because they have the majority quality at 140-154 and they're doing nothing with it

I don't think its a problem that a blank slate was filled with these fights. Would you prefer no boxing?

They could be setting up bigger fights for later in the year. I get what fans want to see. But fans can't expect any promotional company to risk a young fighters development by putting them in above their heads.

Could Thurman, for example, be fighting a higher name, yes. But he could be fighting Diaz for the same reason SRL fought Andy Price before Wilfred Benitez.

[Hougigo]

Thurman has had 3 fights to look good

Vs Zavek, in one of the ugliest matches I ssen in the last 2 years.......

Vs. Chaves, a handpicked eurobum that surprisingly was boxing the shyt out of him and was arguably leading before he mentally quit and folded after a lucky fluke Thurman body shot

Vs Karrass, a nobody fighter that Buzzed him and gave him all hell

With GB loaded stable from 140-254 how are those not set up fights.........Like I say Hype jobs will continue to hype job though


Perspective my ass. Duran SRL, Mayweather, ODH, Pacquaio all had to face names and all had HOF bodies on their resume before they got to the point where they could pick and chose opponents, it's people like you who has lost perspective....................

Yea, how does this help his development? All three of those are quality opponents.

Zavec, former world champ
Diego Chaves, undefeated rising prospect
Soto Karass, tough journeyman with experience and off the biggest win of his career.

Then we get Julio Diaz.... 0-2-1 in his last three... only redeemable thing about him currently is he knocked Khan down and almost won.
How is this helping his development? Beating an old faded champion on primetime t.v?

But of course, they'll talk about how dangerous Diaz is because he knocked Khan down and used to be a world champ.... it's excellent matchmaking

[Hougigo]

I don't think its a problem that a blank slate was filled with these fights. Would you prefer no boxing?

They could be setting up bigger fights for later in the year. I get what fans want to see. But fans can't expect any promotional company to risk a young fighters development by putting them in above their heads.

Could Thurman, for example, be fighting a higher name, yes. But he could be fighting Diaz for the same reason SRL fought Andy Price before Wilfred Benitez.

Of course I always prefer boxing, but I don't want to watch an entire card filled with mismatches.
That's evidently what GBP and Showtime has been pulling too.
Also, I'd rather see them save their money in their budget for good fights and not throwing out mismatches here and there just to fill in air waves.

[The Big Dunn]

Thurman has had 3 fights to look good

Vs Zavek, in one of the ugliest matches I ssen in the last 2 years.......

Vs. Chaves, a handpicked eurobum that surprisingly was boxing the shyt out of him and was arguably leading before he mentally quit and folded after a lucky fluke Thurman body shot

Vs Karrass, a nobody fighter that Buzzed him and gave him all hell

With GB loaded stable from 140-254 how are those not set up fights.........Like I say Hype jobs will continue to hype job though


Perspective my ass. Duran SRL, Mayweather, ODH, Pacquaio all had to face names and all had HOF bodies on their resume before they got to the point where they could pick and chose opponents, it's people like you who has lost perspective....................

go review duran and srl's resume and tell me if you know the names of the 1st 25 people each of them fought. My guess is you will know floyd sr and no one else. Zaveck and Soto Karass are about the same level of fighter SRL was fighting.

ODH is the exception, not the rule. His 1st 25 fights a FAR superior to SRL's.

[sbbigmike]

Well, there you guys have it...

Argentina = Europe

Sad thing is, you're not even trolling.


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Eurobum is just a term for a out states hand picked bum you know that, Chaves could of bee Russian and I would have still called him a handpick eurobum, doesn't change the fact that he was handpicked and he was a bum and yet Thurman still struggled with him.................

Keep moving goalpost though............Has Thurman faced at least one top 15 WW huh as long as he's been calling out names, and I'm being generous with the top 15 thing, I grade fighters on the number of top 10 bodies that they ran through in their division...Name one Top 15 who Thurman has ran through, i'll wait........