Marcos "El Chino" Maidana working the heavy bag

[New England]

Maidana went 12 with tiny Broner, but his powers gonna win him the fight against Floyd lol delusional

broner is a bigger guy than floyd. he was at lower weights because he was very young. mayweather took a very long time to grow into a welterweight. broner was always a welterweight, he just used to cut ungodly weight.

[New England]

I'm enthusiastic about both. Does your enthusiasm for boxing carry over to training? I don't think you know what the purpose of that bag is for. It isn't for power and there wasn't much of it on display.

If you see power and speed in that video, more power to you. I sure as hell don't.

you can certainly tell that maidana has heavy hands and thudding power in that video, especially on the left hook that he turns over.

he's a big, big puncher.

[Syf]

Corrales was going to be too strong and KO Mayweather.
De La Hoya was going to break Floyd and KO him.
Hatton was going to TKO him.
Mosley was going to KO him.
Ortiz (who had dropped everyone he faced before Mayweather) was going to give Mayweather his first official knockdown.
Cotto at his comfortable weight was going to break Mayweather down and stop him.
Canelo is too big and will KO Mayweather to the body.

Now we have 'Maidana is going to shock the world and stop Mayweather'

See any patterns here? People really underestimate this guys toughness, look at the fights where he has stood and traded. He can weather a storm and some.

Not taking anything from Floyd, but there are asterisks by many of those fighters that kept them from doing better in retrospect. Corrales many claim was having weight issues..Dlh's gameplan was points over hurting his opponent, as is evident from his work in the clinch.. Hatton fresh up from 140..Mosley coming off a huge layoff and lost the mental game when he had Floyd hurt..Ortiz mentally weak..Cotto too worried about the punches that were coming back because he's been stopped before so wasnt able to launch a consistent offense..Canelo, wrong mindset and gameplan.

But this isnt about them, many of which I rooted for Mayweather against.. the question is.. is Maidana the right collection of attributes to form a perfect storm that will finally dethrone or at least severely fluster a 37 years young Mayweather?

At his best, he brings a combination of attributes Floyd has NEVER faced..strong jab of cotto, the power of mosley, the relentlessness of Jesus Chavez.. Does he have deficiencies? Of course, but I refuse to believe Floyd is some invincible demigod like people in NSB tend to think. Maidana's awkwardness catches people by surprise.. his speed is more than advertised..his vulnerability makes people underestimate him. His power can change the course of a fight in an instant. CURRENT Maidana is favored in many fights.. and he's a live dog in any fight... including THIS one.

To Floyd I would say..dont underestimate Maidana like everybody else does, or that will be your undoing.

Maidana tightens up his punches when he's in close. His looping angles will help him get around Floyds guard and maybe catch him with one he can't see from a distance. He needs to throw them when Floyd is on the run like the one that caught Broner in the Second rd.

Maidana throws a great straight right too, but I think it will be irrelevant in this fight.

see, I think the total opposite. I think he has a much better chance with straight punches then he does that looping stuff. That wont work on Floyd. Floyd will get all inside of those looping shots and hurt him bad down the pipe

Its both.. he needs to change from range to close up, from looping to straight shots and back. Variate his attack to keep Mayweather from getting into a rhythm

I'm enthusiastic about both. Does your enthusiasm for boxing carry over to training? I don't think you know what the purpose of that bag is for. It isn't for power and there wasn't much of it on display.

If you see power and speed in that video, more power to you. I sure as hell don't.

of course I have laced them up. One doesn't just fall off the turnip truck with my knowledge.I dont see greasy lightning speed and I never said I did. I see underrated speed, when applied. And power of technique can be discerned from watching shadow boxing, let alone hitting a heavy bag, of ANY type. You think someone can only see power in technique if a guy is hitting a 100lb+ bag? Why? You only look for visual cues from the result of the punch? Dont you look at the punch itself? The angle the trajectory the way a guy torques his body into the punch, how he aligns his root to fuel the punch..ect? You are too caught up on gear and not caught up enough on form if so.


Oh... and that bag is a 50lb bag.. not 30lbs.

you can certainly tell that maidana has heavy hands and thudding power in that video, especially on the left hook that he turns over.

he's a big, big puncher.

My sentiment exactly.. His left hook especially is looking very good. They are training him to go to the body with that thing.

[Da Machine]

broner is a bigger guy than floyd. he was at lower weights because he was very young. mayweather took a very long time to grow into a welterweight. broner was always a welterweight, he just used to cut ungodly weight.

Broner is ****ing huge. A large assd mother ****er.

[ElCaneloAlvarez]

Look at those weird angled punches. That's why I believe Maidana is going be a lot tougher than canelo was for mayweather. I like what I see in that vid. Maidana is training for an absolute brawl. He is just throwing all over the place.

He is not going in there to have a fencing match with mayweather and try to look cute.

Precisely what I was thinking. Green K.

[ElCaneloAlvarez]

Chino's not ****** enough to try and outbox and be mr technical vs Mayweather, he'll give it all he's got... balls to the wall!!!

[Gonzalez_Boxing]

of course I have laced them up. One doesn't just fall off the turnip truck with my knowledge.I dont see greasy lightning speed and I never said I did. I see underrated speed, when applied. And power of technique can be discerned from watching shadow boxing, let alone hitting a heavy bag, of ANY type. You think someone can only see power in technique if a guy is hitting a 100lb+ bag? Why? You only look for visual cues from the result of the punch? Dont you look at the punch itself? The angle the trajectory the way a guy torques his body into the punch, how he aligns his root to fuel the punch..ect? You are too caught up on gear and not caught up enough on form if so.


Oh... and that bag is a 50lb bag.. not 30lbs.

I never said you called him grease lightning. I said he still looks slow to me.

Not sure why you keep mentioning gear. I guess that's the only reason I've been watching boxing since the 80's.

You can torque your body and pivot your ass off. Bottom line a decent punch is a decent punch. There was nothing special in that video. I've seen Luis Collazo, Mike Ruiz, Tito Bracero, a few local pros, and a handful of amateurs around the same weight work the bag harder than Maidana is doing in that video, and I wouldn't label any of them powerful.

If that's powerful to you, who am I to tell you otherwise. I respect your opinion. I just happen to disagree.

[RichCCFC]

Wonder how heavy that bag is

[Gonzalez_Boxing]

Wonder how heavy that bag is

40 lb.

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[Da Machine]

Maidana is a 147 LB fighter. He can hit, but you can't change how big you are. He's never going to be destroying 80-100 lb bags.

He carries speed and explosiveness in single punches. So I hink his speed is underrated. Look at the punch that put Lopez down originally. **** was lightning quick.