If Rigondeaux was a welterweight, could he outbox Mayweather?

[!! Shawn]

He won't do enough posturing to out point Floyd... That may work vs guys like agebako, I just don't see Floyd getting outpointed by rigo over 12 rounds..
I see the fight being a snoozed with neither guy being aggressive but Floyd will do just enough from the outside pot shoting to take most rounds with rigo winning at least 4 rounds maybe more but Floyd catching him at least once with a quick shot that drops rigo with a flash knockdown, and Floyd would win 115-112 twice and one judge having it 114-113 floyd

You are not going to potshot Rigo, Donaire tried that, it doesn't work, he won't let you set your feet to throw anything you can land, and when he stands with you, slips your pot shot and throws that vicious bolo to the body.

[humanpunchingbg]

FM's speed/accuracy and Rigo's questionable chin would have Floyd coming out with a close but clear win for FM with 1 or 2 knock downs in his favor and likely being a big factor in him getting the win.

[Loque-san]

2003 I'm pretty sure they wer both at 135,, casamoyer fought corrales and Floyd was defending vs Sosa and ndou.. I'm about 75% sure

Ok I just checked it. In 2003, Casa was still at 130. He moved up in late 2004 to face Castillo.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Ok I just checked it. In 2003, Casa was still at 130. He moved up in late 2004 to face Castillo.

Ok, thanks for clarifying

[JmH Reborn]

Rigo and Calderon ate the only two guys in the last 10 years with the speed and boxing ability to outbox Floyd of they were the same size

I think p4p, assuming Rigo power moved with him, that would make things interesting

[Stark777]

Yes, Rigo has the speed and skill necesary to do so, but it won´t be easy though.

[Doctor_Tenma]

You are not going to potshot Rigo, Donaire tried that, it doesn't work, he won't let you set your feet to throw anything you can land, and when he stands with you, slips your pot shot and throws that vicious bolo to the body.

"Donaire tried that, it doesn't work" I don't think anything dumber has been said in this thread.

[Doctor_Tenma]

You are not going to force him into being the aggressor, ever. He would win those rounds too, because he does enough posturing to give the appearance of control.

So that leaves Floyd in the position of having to establish the appearance of control of the fight, and that will require coming forward and creating openings to be hit.


Cotto while on the small side reach wise, is the last person to have real skills to be in the ring with Floyd and be close in size parity. Floyd got touched up quite badly in that fight.

I like how you mentioned Miguel Cotto touching him up a bit, it was both irrelevant and comical at the same time since you didn't even elaborate as to why you brought him up. It's certainly because you would quickly have to come to the conclusion that Rigondeaux does not possess such an authoritative jab, neither does he step in with one. Your sounding more and more like a nuthugger but to your credit your trying to break it down, although failing miserably.



2nd, this notion that Mayweather would be required to come forward is laughable, as soon as I brought up that I wasn't oblivious to Rigondeaux's jab you never responded to me. I acknowledge it's purpose, never knocked him for it but it simply wouldn't work. You can't paw with the jab against one of the greatest lead punchers ever. It'll be Mayweather giving Rigondeaux very little to counter off of, pecking away and Rigondeaux forced to come out of his shell.

[Augustane]

I would say yes. For once, I could imagine somebody forcing Floyd to become the aggressor and matching (or even surpassing) Floyd in skill and technique.

[A-Wolf]

But that just shows Floyd's versatility, when need be he can change up styles and win fights.. Vs rigo he wouldn't need to be aggressive, he would just sit outside and circle rigo, pot shoting him to death and being very wary of getting into exchanges with rigo... I do believe rigo is one of the fees guys that could get the better of Floyd in exchanges, but I Floyd won't give him the opportunities.
I will be the first to admit that if Floyd tries being aggressive and walking rigo down, rigo will make him pay and win, I just don't see Floyd being aggressive

Ok so now you're back to arguing that Floyd would hold the upper hand from the outside even though I already established Demarcus Corley and Zab Judah essentially forced Floyd to go inside on them because of how successful they were from the outside. That was pointless.