Everything wrong with boxing

[Bigg Rigg]

Yea man, but even the Canelo fight was really close. I thought that fight could have gone either way, and thought Canelo edged it out in the end.

In this one, I just didn't see how Danny won this. I re-watched the fight and the second time around, I saw it even more for Herrera. His defense was amazing, he was hardly hit with any left hooks and just frustrated Danny with that jab.

Also, the Scott fight was terrible. I wouldn't say he took a dive, but I have seen hundreds of fighters hurt in person, and he didn't look that hurt. You can tell it in the eyes of a fighter, and he looked clear eyed.

Canelo Trout was close but I meant that I knew he was up comfortably n it took away the excitement. Open scoring sucks! Danny was left hook happy n was landing no left hooks. Horrible combination. Lol he got jabbed all night almost worst than Tito vs Winky. I had it about 8-4 Herrera, 7-5 worst. And 6-6 if you're biased. Lol no way though does Danny get the nod on my card. That Scott KO was sad. The dude got slapped with a left and the right didn't even get threw. He said he didn't take a dive but come on bro.... So you mean to tell me you got b1tch slapped and that **** had you hurt like that???

[Black Barty]

No offense to anyone, but this is a typical overreaction to an underdog doing better than expected, similar to when:

- a lot of people cried robbery after Broner vs Paulie or Cotto vs Clottey.

- Macklin gets a ton of credit for the Martinez fight, when in reality he won maybe 2-3 rounds clearly against an obviously coasting Sergio.

- Donaire vs Vazquez jr. ended in a SD.

etc.

Was Garcia vs Herrera a close fight? Absolutely. Could it have gone the other way? Yes. Was it a robbery? NO.

[Bigg Rigg]

No offense to anyone, but this is a typical overreaction to an underdog doing better than expected, similar to when:

- a lot of people cried robbery after Broner vs Paulie or Cotto vs Clottey.

- Macklin gets a ton of credit for the Martinez fight, when in reality he won maybe 2-3 rounds clearly against an obviously coasting Sergio.

- Donaire vs Vazquez jr. ended in a SD.

etc.

Was Garcia vs Herrera a close fight? Absolutely. Could it have gone the other way? Yes. Was it a robbery? NO.

Nah bro, Danny lost. No coulda gone either way IMO.

[MGMGRAND]

You know, the older I get, the more I become disgusted with these types of decisions. I watched the fights on Saturday night, and was really happy for a fighter like Herrera who has taken the hard road up.

You can see he really trained hard for this fight, his corner had an amazing game plan, and he gave the performance of his life. Then came the decision....

It's heart breaking to see a fighter like him, become a victim of money. Money in the future of who GB wants Danny Garcia to be. Knowing that a loss to some guy like Herrera, who is supposed to just be a stepping stone, would derail the entire plan they have for a Garcia vs Mayweather showdown.

Now I don't like to use the word "robbery" but this was about as close as you get to that definition. What was even more frustrating was the stats. There's no way Herrera got hit with that many shots, his defense was superb that night. They took the left hook away from Danny, and his jab completely dominated the fight.

Most of the shots the crowd was cheering for, did not land. He was catching and slipping most of the shots, and his face at the end of the fight showed it. Garcia was bruised and bloodied, while Herrera's face looked much better.

Like Teddy Atlas said, you cannot take these punches back. Herrera gave of himself in this fight, and he will never get this back. I knew that he would need a KO to win in PR, it's just a shame because they are taking away the natural order of what should happen in boxing.

The better man won, give Herrera the belts and the chance to make a big payday. That is the way things should be.

On a side note, I HATE the open scoring. It takes away the suspense, and it shows the clear bias that they have for the home town fighter. I wish they would do away with it because it just frustrates you more than anything else. We need reform in boxing, we need to clean things up because I'm sick and tired of these horrible decisions. I know what these guys go through, how hard they train and how much of themselves they put into this sport.

To rob them of victory because of some bigger money making plan is just corruption, bottom line. It's the reason I don't pay for any Mayweather fights, it's all a scam. They want to make money, while propping him up. Setting him up with Maidana, then Khan and possibly Danny is BS. We the fans want to see the best fights, I understand you have to make money but there's money to be made there with better opposition.

I like how you said GoldenBoy though.

Top Rank has been the leader in the sport in robberies or disputed wins

Chavez Sr Vs Whitaker
Floyd Mayweather Vs Luis Castillo "yes Mayweather was a TR fighters then"
Manny Pacquiao Vs Timothy Bradley
Chavez Jr Vs Rubio 1

[Hougigo]

No offense to anyone, but this is a typical overreaction to an underdog doing better than expected, similar to when:

- a lot of people cried robbery after Broner vs Paulie or Cotto vs Clottey.

- Macklin gets a ton of credit for the Martinez fight, when in reality he won maybe 2-3 rounds clearly against an obviously coasting Sergio.

- Donaire vs Vazquez jr. ended in a SD.

etc.

Was Garcia vs Herrera a close fight? Absolutely. Could it have gone the other way? Yes. Was it a robbery? NO.

Let me guess.... He has to dominate the champ to take the belt

[-PBP-]

No offense to anyone, but this is a typical overreaction to an underdog doing better than expected, similar to when:

- a lot of people cried robbery after Broner vs Paulie or Cotto vs Clottey.

- Macklin gets a ton of credit for the Martinez fight, when in reality he won maybe 2-3 rounds clearly against an obviously coasting Sergio.

- Donaire vs Vazquez jr. ended in a SD.

etc.

Was Garcia vs Herrera a close fight? Absolutely. Could it have gone the other way? Yes. Was it a robbery? NO.

The right guy won in all of those examples.

[MGMGRAND]

People say open scoring would deter bad scoring early on..... When has it ever had that effect? Herrera even became more offensive after hearing the open score.... Didn't matter

That is the purpose for open scoring, but all this does is put more weight on the judges "trust me" they know what other judges are scoring the fight, and might also have a crowd effect as well.

Especially if the judge has a thing for a fighter, rather he just be a fan, country man or whatever they might still being bias by mistake.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

No offense to anyone, but this is a typical overreaction to an underdog doing better than expected, similar to when:

- a lot of people cried robbery after Broner vs Paulie or Cotto vs Clottey.

- Macklin gets a ton of credit for the Martinez fight, when in reality he won maybe 2-3 rounds clearly against an obviously coasting Sergio.

- Donaire vs Vazquez jr. ended in a SD.

etc.

Was Garcia vs Herrera a close fight? Absolutely. Could it have gone the other way? Yes. Was it a robbery? NO.

We aren't talking other fights, just this one. I fully understand that the champ needs to be beaten, I get that.

Re-watch the fight, I have and I cannot give it to Danny in any way. Most of the combinations he was throwing that was getting a crowd response weren't landing.

Herrera out worked him, landed more, defended better and you could see the frustration in not only Danny's face, but in his fathers as well.

I get your point, but this wasn't as close as some are making it out to be when you really sit down and watch it. I like Danny, picked him to beat Mathysse, but he lost this fight.

I'm not delusional, and neither is the vast majority of the boxing public, media and fans and neither was Paulie Malignaggie when he called it like it was.

I think Al Bernstein was trying to do some damage control, but Paulie blew that up immediately. Also, Dan Rafeal who I'm not a huge fan of, called it like it is as well.

When we see these types of injustices, we have to be fair even if it's your fighter getting the benefit of the decision. I love Julio Cesar Chavez, but when he was given a draw vs Sweet Pea, I called BS.

[Black Barty]

The right guy won in all of those examples.

What I'm trying to say is that whenever a massive underdog does better than expected, people tend to go overboard and cry robbery when it was simply a close fight (like Broner vs Paulie), or give said underdog too much credit (like Sergio vs Macklin).

If you all had watched Garcia vs Herrera without knowing anything about the fighters, you wouldn't be talking about a robbery now imo.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

What I'm trying to say is that whenever a massive underdog does better than expected, people tend to go overboard and cry robbery when it was simply a close fight (like Broner vs Paulie), or give said underdog too much credit (like Sergio vs Macklin).

If you all had watched Garcia vs Herrera without knowing anything about the fighters, you wouldn't be talking about a robbery now imo.

Wrong.......