Does Lomanchenko losing make Rigo look better ?

[brickcityboxing]

This OP is a cornucopia of ******ation.

And why's that ? They both got signed by the same promoter, both got fast tracked for a title shot based off their abilities and ATG amateur records, both happen to be in the same neighborhood as far as weight is concerned. One of them came up short, the other is on most people's p4p list. Now that's not to say Loma's loss or even a win would've affected Rigo's status but it still begs the question ... Did Loma looking the way he did last night make you appreciate what we have in Rigo more ?

[junior gong]

And why's that ? They both got signed by the same promoter, both got fast tracked for a title shot based off their abilities and ATG amateur records, both happen to be in the same neighborhood as far as weight is concerned. One of them came up short, the other is on most people's p4p list. Now that's not to say Loma's loss or even a win would've affected Rigo's status but it still begs the question ... Did Loma looking the way he did last night make you appreciate what we have in Rigo more ?

Because its an absolutely dumb comparison. Why would anyone appreciate Rigo more because another unrelated fighter took a narrow loss in a world title shot in his second fight. Loma should have had more fights as with 2-3 more bouts he wouldnt have had much trouble with siri. They gambled, went after history and lost. It says nothing at all about Rigo, positive or otherwise.

[frosty-g]

Why does everyone insist this was Lomachenko's second bout outside amateur boxing?
As if the World Series bouts were not relevant. He fought a bunch of 5 rounders set up in as professional a style as can be.
Not to take anything away from the great amateur that he was and the probably great pro he will be but "ooh it's only his second pro bout, it was a massive transition", please come off it

[junior gong]

Why does everyone insist this was Lomachenko's second bout outside amateur boxing?
As if the World Series bouts were not relevant. He fought a bunch of 5 rounders set up in as professional a style as can be.
Not to take anything away from the great amateur that he was and the probably great pro he will be but "ooh it's only his second pro bout, it was a massive transition", please come off it

Going from five rounds to twelve isnt a massive transition? Yeepers!

[brickcityboxing]

Because its an absolutely dumb comparison. Why would anyone appreciate Rigo more because another unrelated fighter took a narrow loss in a world title shot in his second fight. Loma should have had more fights as with 2-3 more bouts he wouldnt have had much trouble with siri. They gambled, went after history and lost. It says nothing at all about Rigo, positive or otherwise.

The comparison is obvious. There were countless threads made on this site in particular and even hbo made note of it the night of the fight. They aren't two separate "unrelated" fighters. Their names were pretty much synonymous as soon as Loma stepped on the scene because of their similar backgrounds. Cut the *****, if you think it doesn't add or take away from Rigo as a fighter that's fine. I'm not sure it does either, that's why the question was posed, but don't act like you don't see why anyone would compare their amateur careers and why they wouldn't continue to do that going into the pro's with the hopes of them meeting up some day. But I digress because none that matters anymore as one of them failed to live up to their potential or hype depending in who you ask...

[CubanGuyNYC]

I think its a loss for Rigo. If Loma had won he'd of made history and the bandwagon would be ridiculous and many would pick him over Rigo.
He'd of had a decent win and some momentum and it would of been two of the greatest amateurs to ever live going at it for all the marbles.

Rigondeaux would of absolutely destroyed Lomachenko and captured another world title in another division.

Rigo is probably a bit gutted he lost especially with the lack of opponents lining up.

Great point, Dan. Beating Salido might've blinded Arum into thinking his new fair-haired child actually lived up to the hype, and pitted him against his hated Rigo. Guillermo would've then disposed of another Arum cash cow, and looked great in the process. Alas....

[CubanGuyNYC]

Wether you want to believe it or not the comparisons were there to begin with. The two gold medals, the gaudy amateur records, the obvious talent/blinding speed. I know the revisionists will say its apples and oranges, they will also note that Loma's in a different space having only had 1 pro bout prior, which is debatable. But Loma was being touted by some as the next Rigo. Regardless of how the fight played out (ref,low blows,scoring etc...), do you feel seeing Loma having been "cut from the same cloth" as Rigo, struggling and losing, shows just how remarkable and how difficult it is to accomplish what Rigo did in under 10 fights (not counting Donaire). In other words is Loma's loss Rigo's win ?

I remember when Rigo first turned pro and they matched him with Freddie Roach. There was talk of getting him a championship match in his second or third fight. I always wondered what happened to that idea. It's not like they saw something wrong. None of Guillermo's first three fights made it past the third round. In any case, I'm glad they didn't rush it. I don't think Rigo was ready for a guy like Salido so early in his pro career. Now he'd make Siri look ******ed.

Fair or not, Lomo's loss makes "El Chacal" look better. It's all about perception. The shine is gone. Vasyl no longer has that aura. I think it draws attention to how hard it is to become a bona fide world champion so quickly.

[Szef]

Lomachenko still has time to be greater than Rigo.

[bojangles1987]

I guarantee you that if Rigondeaux had fought an Orlando Salido equivalent in his second pro fight, he would have done no better than Lomachenko.

So no, it doesn't make Rigondeaux look any better.

[Black Barty]

Absolutely not.

People seem to forget how much Rigo struggled with a past prime Cordoba and a mediocre Marroquin before he finally put it all together against Donaire. I really don't think Rigo would have beaten an opponent of Salido's caliber in his second pro fight.