Salido was clearly weight drained...

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  • BennyST
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    #41
    Originally posted by MeatCurtain
    You don't know what weight drained means. It's ok. Chad Dawson may have been weakened from losing weight, but he was not weight drained.


    Weight drained comes from the days of same day weigh ins when guys didn't have time to put weight back on. You guys hear the phrase,and use it every chance you get, when in fact you don't know what the fu you are talking about..

    Weight drained has nothing to do with putting weight back on. It's when you don't have time to get the weight back on (same day weigh-ins), or your body is so spent that it is unable to properly rehydrate do to extensive dehydration. (De la hoya vs Pac)


    We're talking about being weight drained today. For a fight today. Who gives a **** where the term from and what it meant 30+ years ago.

    It's utterly irrelevant when talking about todays fighters and todays standard of what being weight drained is. Salido might not have been a bad case, as it could have been as much from a lack of training as it was trying to lose too much weight, but weight drained is typified across the board by guys that put on huge amounts of weight. They exhaust their bodies getting down, then they aren't rested because their bodies are working so hard rehydrating to the point that is just unhealthy.

    That is todays standard, and all that matters.

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    • BennyST
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      #42
      Originally posted by RubenSonny
      I'm actually surprised DLH punch resistance held up the way it did against Pac all things considered.
      Yeah, very surprising considering. Normally in that situation guys just fold.

      Originally posted by Holywarrior
      Based on what? He gained it back no problem.
      That has nothing to do with anything. Gaining it back doesn't stop what has come before, which is where the weakening/draining happens.

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      • Holywarrior
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        #43
        Originally posted by BennyST
        Yeah, very surprising considering. Normally in that situation guys just fold.



        That has nothing to do with anything. Gaining it back doesn't stop what has come before, which is where the weakening/draining happens.
        Using this logic everyone is weight drained.

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        • dan_cov
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          #44
          I keep hearing about the weight, I agree it is unprofessional but I feel its an excuse. Salido's age with the long career he has had cutting that weight and rehydrating 19lbs is not going to do him any favours, is it?
          Sure he put a fair bit on but he still had to cut a lot of weight even with missing the limit.

          Am I the only one who felt Salido looked **** last night? Taking nothing away from him but he looked slow and flat to me.
          That wasn't the guy who fought Lopez, Gamboa or even Mikey.

          Watch his earlier fights, even with Mikey, sure Mikey outboxed him but he looked a lot faster and was putting combinations together. I can't help but feel the weight issues actually may of hurt Salido last night.

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          • umop-ap!sdn
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            #45
            Originally posted by Golovkin
            Whether he was drained or the wars have taxed him, the Salido we saw last night was not the one we are used to. That's why it makes Lomachenko look even worse.

            Salido looked slow, sluggish and fatigued and still managed to get it done mostly due to experience. The first thing he mentioned last night was that he is moving to 130 ASAP so hopefully it is mainly the weight that's the problem.
            Yuuup Salido looked semi sloppy and it made me scratch my head at Lomachenko. Maybe stage fright? He seems to have more skills than he showed, maybe he just froze up on the big stage once his scene came.

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            • sugarsmosley
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              #46
              I think above all things, the moment seemed somehow to be too much for loma. im a loma fan, but i cant lie. he looked shook in rd. 1

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              • DannYankee
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                #47
                If anything the weight was a disadvantage to Salido that i can agree with. The guy fought opposite of his usual he came in strong then faded til he was almost gassed out completely.

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                • LA_2_Vegas
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                  #48
                  Yeah I don't think he was weight drained, he didn't even bother to lose it

                  he was probably just out of shape.

                  I know it's hard to believe, but maybe Salido looked at this fight as nothing more than a tune-up. He trained, but did he give that extra?

                  Put yourself in his shoes, would any of u really picture yourself being bothered with some fresh faced 1-0 fighter at his stage? It seems like he believed that, at least in the short term, he could run circles around him just being in normal shape. He almost paid for it at the end though, he faded FAST lol. A rematch might be interesting

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                  • Wizardsh
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                    #49
                    Why are dipshiiiitttttsss acting salido weight was a factor in this fight. Loma couldn't beat an out of shape and shop worn salido. People are saying loma did good against a vet like salido despite the lost but he didn't and loma looked like shiiiiittttt. The weight salido put on that all these butthurt loma fans are crying about didn't help salido it actually worked against salido. The only thing that was bs was the low blows salido was doing,I give these butthurt fans that but the low blows don't excuse loma performance. Not once did loma get hurt by the low blows. Salido was thier for the taking and loma couldn't deliver because he is simply not that good.

                    Loma is simply over hyped wont amount to crap and only proves being king of amature boxing means dog sssshhhhhhiiiiit
                    No punch power
                    Questionable stamina
                    Questionable chin
                    Crapy defense
                    No inside game
                    Master at holding and pushing

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                    • YouHateRicans!
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                      #50
                      TS meant to say: "Salido was clearly punching balls"

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