The last time Floyd faced 1 punch KO power?

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  • Da Machine
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    #71
    Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
    So then don't ignore the fact that Lopez, Broner weren't fully adjusted to the weight or the fact that Karass took clean shots without backing away. It all coincides with rating his power, don't be an idiot.
    Lopez was in his 3rd straight fight at 147 or above and was taking flush shots all fight from Ortiz.. Maidana his 4th at 147.

    Broner was in his second fight at 147. Had shown no chin issues what so ever before.

    Thurman took longer to break down Karass then Maidana. Karass is a tough dude. What's your point? Maidanas 2nd fight at 147, first with Garcia. Karass was noticeably much larger man.

    We can both twist things all day, but reality is still reality at the end of the day.

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    • Doctor_Tenma
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      #72
      Originally posted by Syf
      Note throughout my whole post I said things like "based on recent footage" and "current Maidana"

      He has clearly learned from Devon. Compare his approach to the clinch in the Devon fight with his approach to the clinch in the Broner fight.

      If you are going to be stuck in the past with obsolete observations, I cant have a conversation with you.
      Alexander is physically stronger than Broner, Devon has used those wrestling tactics for quite some time so it's only understandable that he would be that effective. On top of that Alexander was a '47 while fighting at '40, this is why he looked that much stronger as soon as he entered the division.

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        #73
        Originally posted by Syf
        Note throughout my whole post I said things like "based on recent footage" and "current Maidana"

        He has clearly learned from Devon. Compare his approach to the clinch in the Devon fight with his approach to the clinch in the Broner fight.

        If you are going to be stuck in the past with obsolete observations, I cant have a conversation with you.
        Excellent. Utterly excellent.

        You are right.

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        • Doctor_Tenma
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          #74
          Originally posted by Red Slider
          Lopez was in his 3rd straight fight at 147 or above and was taking flush shots all fight from Ortiz.. Maidana his 4th at 147.

          Broner was in his second fight at 147. Had shown no chin issues what so ever before.

          Thurman took longer to break down Karass then Maidana. Karass is a tough dude. What's your point? Maidanas 2nd fight at 147, first with Garcia. Karass was noticeably much larger man.

          We can both twist things all day, but reality is still reality at the end of the day.
          You specialize in making ****** comments?

          Khan didn't show chin issues against Malignaggi either so what does that say?

          "Thurman took longer to break Karass down"

          Thurman is a boxer, no shit sherlock!

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            #75
            Originally posted by Syf
            Note throughout my whole post I said things like "based on recent footage" and "current Maidana"

            He has clearly learned from Devon. Compare his approach to the clinch in the Devon fight with his approach to the clinch in the Broner fight.

            If you are going to be stuck in the past with obsolete observations, I cant have a conversation with you.
            To add more to it, Alexander controlled Maidana easily, very easily. I can understand if Maidana held his own in that department but he wasn't even competitive, and his improvements under Garcia likely wouldn't change that from happening to him again.

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            • Syf
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              #76
              Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
              Lets agree to disagree because I strongly feel that I'm right here but lets scratch all this momentarily, those guys have better technique then Maidana, those guys are physically stronger as well, so where the fuck will his power factor in exactly?
              Technique is relative.. Maidana is very good at what he does.

              I feel his very nice power will augment his mentality and help his approach to the fight. In the end its irrelevant if mosley or the others punches 1 ppsi more than Maidana or vice versa.... its about the approach to the fight and mentality that Maidana brings.

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                #77
                Phillip Ndou.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
                  Lets agree to disagree because I strongly feel that I'm right here but lets scratch all this momentarily, those guys have better technique then Maidana, those guys are physically stronger as well, so where the fuck will his power factor in exactly?
                  Better technique = punching at a traditional angle.

                  Unlike "those guys," Maidana punches at untraditional angles.

                  You asked where his power will factor in. I will tell you precisely where.

                  Floyd Mayweather is an expert at rolling, slipping, catching, and predicting traditional punches.

                  Shane Mosley said -- I'm paraphrasing -- Mayweather is not an expert at rolling, slipping, catching, and predicting untraditional punches.

                  Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysCAj2ZO6Dk&feature=********&t=1m59s

                  Listen to what Mosley says.

                  Are your opinions baseless? What are you basing them on to convince us reasonable Maidana fans? I'm giving you evidence. Please back up your posts, pal. Otherwise you're just talking s*&$ and coming off as a Maidana hater. Who did you pick in Broner-Maidana? Have you closely, thoroughly watched Maidana's fights?

                  I have watched Maidana's entire career multiple times. I've watched Broner-Maidana in its entirety about forty times. I study it.
                  Last edited by punchr; 02-23-2014, 05:19 PM.

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                  • Larry the boss
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Cloud
                    Phillip Ndou.
                    yep 31 wins 30 by ko

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                    • hugh grant
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by rogdogx
                      I'm raking my brain trying to remember the last time Floyd fought a real 1 punch KO type of guy. Maidana is extremely limited but he has that 1 punch crack. Even though I feel Matthysse is the bigger puncher of the 2 and better all around, Floyd hasn't fought a guy that can punch like this in ages. I'm not saying Maidana is beating Floyd, I feel Mayweather will be able to expose Chino's limitations. Still can't remember the last time Floyd fought a real puncher like this though.
                      Maidana aint that man as well. Lucas would be closer to that man, but Floyd would rather fight the weaker Argy, and expect credit for it.

                      Philip Ndou, historically is no Julian Jackson, or Duran.
                      Last edited by hugh grant; 02-23-2014, 05:17 PM.

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