Is Joe Frazier really an ATG?

[KingTito]

Well I'm not sure how you determine an ATG. I think he is.

[Szef]

He is known for being in the Fight of the Century, and winning it.

So is Arturo Gatti.

While I do agree his greatness is superbly overrated, dude was exciting as fuck to watch.

So was Arturo Gatti.

Lol that's nsb for u.

So...nothing?

[Larry the boss]

To be honest if he is an ATG then so is Jmm

[bojangles1987]

At heavyweight? Without any question whatsoever. He beat a lot of good fighters before Ali, and that win was the feather in his cap. His career was short, but great.

[Augustane]

He's definitely a Hall of Famer. He's similar to today's Shane Mosley or Juan Manuel Marquez. His legacy is defined by who he's fought and their merits, but not so much his own.

It doesn't mean that his name isn't engraved in boxing history.

[Mr.Fantastic]

So is Arturo Gatti.



So was Arturo Gatti.



So...nothing?

I never thought Gatti was an ATG or a HOF though.

[Canelo Phresh]

He is known for being in the Fight of the Century, and winning it.

[KingTito]

I'll add a bit. His legacy is obviously tied to who he fought. I don't put him among the absolute best P4P, but I certainly rank him as an ATG HW, a HOFer and one of the signature names in boxing history.

[Szef]

I never thought Gatti was an ATG or a HOF though.

I've never said that.

I was responding to that other guy's post...

Arturo Gatti was involved in one of the greatest trilogies of all time as well. And he won it.

[KingTito]

I've never said that.

I was responding to that other guy's post...

Arturo Gatti was involved in one of the greatest trilogies of all time as well. And he won it.

I see your point, but Gatti's trilogy was against Micky Ward. Frazier's was against Ali.