Who are the current active fighters you would consider "ATG'S?"

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  • Weltschmerz
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    #71
    Originally posted by IconicOne86
    How does Ward being an ATG make Froch and Kessler ATG's? If I can remember right they were both schooled... Ward hasn't lost since he was in his pre-teens/early teens. Obviously with what he has done in his career he is a future ATG. Rigondeaux is a no brainer. Definitely an ATG if not the greatest Cuban boxer ever
    Ward HOF, Rigo very possibly ATG. Ward is still young, doe.

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    • Szef
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      #72
      Originally posted by IconicOne86
      Where would you rank Sergio Martinez? He was pretty unbeatable in his prime.
      Yeah, until somebody beat him.

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      • Larry the boss
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        #73
        Originally posted by Augustane
        I think that's a great list. Depending on what Vitali does with this revolution, we might throw him in there as an ATG for his societal and cultural contributions, similar to Muhammad Ali.
        are you seriously comparing Ali to Vitali...Ali's resume is sick he is a 3 time LINEAL CHAMPION and has a great resume

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        • IconicOne86
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          #74
          Originally posted by Szef99
          Yeah, until somebody beat him.
          Losing eliminates you from being an ATG? Fact is he hasn't lost since the first Paul Williams fight.

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            #75
            Originally posted by IconicOne86
            How does Ward being an ATG make Froch and Kessler ATG's? If I can remember right they were both schooled... Ward hasn't lost since he was in his pre-teens/early teens. Obviously with what he has done in his career he is a future ATG. Rigondeaux is a no brainer. Definitely an ATG if not the greatest Cuban boxer ever
            Ward fought a battle worn Kessler, a young Kessler would of torn Ward to pieces.
            Froch... Froch is just ****e and completely overrated.

            Ward is massively overrated, people make out as if he has fought opponents of ATG status to push him towards this P4P2 spot when in truth he hasn't done anything to deserve such an award.

            Being a P4P fighter should be about TESTING yourself pushing yourself to the limit not maintaining an 0, how very sad has it become that boxing has been reduced to nothing more than this and this is the very reason why Floyd Mayweather doesn't belong anywhere near the top 20 fighters who are really ATGs.

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            • IconicOne86
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              #76
              Originally posted by Weltschmerz
              Ward HOF, Rigo very possibly ATG. Ward is still young, doe.
              Who can beat Ward right now? I am not a nuthugger I am a realist and I can honestly say there is nobody Ward can fight that he wouldn't be favored to beat. Sounds like a definite ATG to me.

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                #77
                Originally posted by Weltschmerz
                If Ward is an ATG, Froch and Kessler can be too. With Rigo I mentioned him off hand as you can see. His ability is ATG clearly.
                Current Active ATG's:

                Ward
                Froch
                Kessler
                Dawson
                Edwin Rodriguez

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                • IconicOne86
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Keitha313
                  Ward fought a battle worn Kessler, a young Kessler would of torn Ward to pieces.
                  Froch... Froch is just ****e and completely overrated.

                  Ward is massively overrated, people make out as if he has fought opponents of ATG status to push him towards this P4P2 spot when in truth he hasn't done anything to deserve such an award.

                  Being a P4P fighter should be about TESTING yourself pushing yourself to the limit not maintaining an 0, how very sad has it become that boxing has been reduced to nothing more than this and this is the very reason why Floyd Mayweather doesn't belong anywhere near the top 20 fighters who are really ATGs.
                  Um he has cleaned out the division. The second best in the division (Froch) would still be considered a cherry pick. He wasn't even favored to win the Super 6 and he schooled everyone he faced. If he moves up I still do not see Stevenson, Kovalev, or Hopkins giving him losses. So what does this mean? That he is overrated or just too damn good for his division? Give respect where it is due

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by IconicOne86
                    Who can beat Ward right now? I am not a nuthugger I am a realist and I can honestly say there is nobody Ward can fight that he wouldn't be favored to beat. Sounds like a definite ATG to me.
                    Ward comes across as this potential way because he isn't willing to test himself at another weight division, he waits out long times before fights...
                    He is fighting a mere 2 times a year yet he isn't willing to mention Kovalev, Adonis or even think of moving down weight.

                    He uses his size advantage in the SMW division that is all but too evident and he uses dirty tactics to win, being an ATG fighter it shouldn't be reflected on breaking rules or just fighting at one division, he most certainly hasn't earned that title.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by IconicOne86
                      Um he has cleaned out the division. The second best in the division (Froch) would still be considered a cherry pick. He wasn't even favored to win the Super 6 and he schooled everyone he faced. If he moves up I still do not see Stevenson, Kovalev, or Hopkins giving him losses. So what does this mean? That he is overrated or just too damn good for his division? Give respect where it is due
                      He never fought away from home, he only fought in USA whereas every other Supersix fighter fought away from home...
                      Respect where it is due to all the others minus Andre Ward who was spoilt because of his golden boy image thing, he is the exception everyone else has an away fight but noooo not Ward...

                      That is truly pathetic and biased the sheer fact referees are scared to do anything about his barbaric actions in the ring with his wrestling is another thing.

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