Who are the current active fighters you would consider "ATG'S?"

[Weltschmerz]

We are talking about current ATG who are also active. How the hell could u have ward and especially rigo an ATG right now, is beyond me.

Also to the guy earlier, never compare vitali to ALI..... sorry lol

If you read his post he mentioned historical impact outside the ring as a factor. You don't necessarily define 'ATG' just by fighting resume. Guys like Jack Johnson, Joe Louis and Ali were cultural icons and societal pattern breakers which also benefited to their 'ATG' status. All-time great influence on the sport as a whole one could argue.

[sugarsmosley]

I think Allan Green is a borderline...

Froch's ATG legacy-defining win over Bute will be remembered for centuries to come, up there w/Kessler v. Siaca.

no mentions of darnell boone??? he rocked both kovalev and dropped ward. auto GOAT, his resume is ATG stats

[Weltschmerz]

Lol... how you figure? Bc he knocked out Stevens? Adama? Oh I got it now it's bc he beat Rosado

No because he's a threat to anybody in between 154 - 175. That's ATG material for you right there.

[IconicOne86]

We are talking about current ATG who are also active. How the hell could u have ward and especially rigo an ATG right now, is beyond me.

Also to the guy earlier, never compare vitali to ALI..... sorry lol

Ward has not lost a fight since 1998, and has captured an Olympic Gold Medal. In less then 25 fights he established himself as THE Super Middleweight Champion and there is no argument that he beat everyone that was anyone in or around his weight. Rigondeaux is a 2 time Olympic Gold Medalist and 7 time National Champion who became the undisputed champ in less than 15 fights. Literally no one wants to fight him and no one has the skill to even make the fight exciting bc they are schooled over and over... I really do not see how they aren't considered top 100 ATG's. Maybe not lower than 85-100 but definitely ATG's

[sugarsmosley]

If you read his post he mentioned historical impact outside the ring as a factor. You don't necessarily define 'ATG' just by fighting resume. Guys like Jack Johnson, Joe Louis and Ali were cultural icons and societal pattern breakers which also benefited to their 'ATG' status. All-time great influence on the sport as a whole one could argue.

too me, i think wlad's got some work to do to reach ATG status. im not sure what he can do though, someone should make a thread about that "what can wlad do to reach ATG" lol. also yes i agree about the impact on society being part of one's legacy. although i think your work in the ring is the ultimate deciding factor.....

[sugarsmosley]

Ward has not lost a fight since 1998, and has captured an Olympic Gold Medal. In less then 25 fights he established himself as THE Super Middleweight Champion and there is no argument that he beat everyone that was anyone in or around his weight. Rigondeaux is a 2 time Olympic Gold Medalist and 7 time National Champion who became the undisputed champ in less than 15 fights. Literally no one wants to fight him and no one has the skill to even make the fight exciting bc they are schooled over and over... I really do not see how they aren't considered top 100 ATG's. Maybe not lower than 85-100 but definitely ATG's

what you do as a amature is a great and is icing on the cake, what you do as a pro in the end is what counts. when people read off the legacy of SRL, the amatuer background comes last... its icing on the cake. bottom line is rigo has 12 fights or something. it's ridiculous to me to call him an ATG. ward i think will be a future atg.

[Citizen Koba]

Lomachenko is 400-1 in amateur bouts. he's close

I'm looking forward to seeing how Loma does in the pros, but there's a reason all the names mentioned are guys nearing the end of distinguished pro careeers, even some of the very best guys in the sport currently aren't even in contention. We're talking about career achievements, not potential.

We haven't got the faintest idea, right now, how any of the top prospects of today will appear to the fans of 2050, yet alone an outstanding debutante.

[IconicOne86]

what you do as a amature is a great and is icing on the cake, what you do as a pro in the end is what counts. when people read off the legacy of SRL, the amatuer background comes last... its icing on the cake. bottom line is rigo has 12 fights or something. it's ridiculous to me to call him an ATG. ward i think will be a future atg.

I agree you have to do something as a Pro. Which I believe Rigo has done... I mean he is Arguably top P4P as far as his skillset, Lineal Champ, and all this with less than 15 fights under his belt.

The question was who are our current ATG's. My opinion is my opinion. I truly believe Ward and Rigondeaux are ATG's

[jasjas]

Bhop .

[jasjas]

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