Did Pac duck Shane in 09?

[ADP02]

The difference is, that wasn't the case at this time.

Pacquaio had just fought Hatton in his fight prior to this whole situation with Mosley. Who was Hatton signed with? Golden Boy Promotions.

Nice job of exposing yourself, though

Mosley was the #1 guy coming off an impressive win and the fight people wanted but sadly he was "Too good".

Please stop typing and take a break. Hatton was KING at 140, can make for good PPV fight and Manny wanted another title. Another thing that most people knew. Maybe you were not around back then so I will give you a break ......

Read this slowly: Manny took on the guy who beat Mosley and who was a TR fighter and a big PPV draw. Plus, Cotto also had a title at WW. Another notch on Manny's belt. On top of that, many critics thought that Cotto was too big and technically to good for Manny. If that is not the perfect trifecta then nothing can help YOU!!!

[fabie]

You guys know that they're not in the same:

• Weight Class
• Height

and thus the catchweight compromise...just like the Margarito fight. Him in the lower weight, for not fighting Mosley initially isn't an avoidance. If Pac offers Mosley and Mosley declines then it is an avoidance.

Mayweather, like Mosley, is on a higher weight class as well...

[DeadLikeMe]

Team Pac admitted they wanted to pursue easier fights.

[IronDanHamza]

Please stop typing and take a break. Hatton was KING at 140, can make for good PPV fight and Manny wanted another title. Another thing that most people knew. Maybe you were not around back then so I will give you a break ......

Read this slowly: Manny took on the guy who beat Mosley and who was a TR fighter and a big PPV draw. Plus, Cotto also had a title at WW. Another notch on Manny's belt. On top of that, many critics thought that Cotto was too big and technically to good for Manny. If that is not the perfect trifecta then nothing can help YOU!!!

Yeah but how can you use TR/GBP as an excuse when it wasn't an issue back then? Surely that debunks the precise reasoning you just used?

I understand exactly what you're saying with your new reasoning you just popped up with and I understand why Pacquaio's team chose Cotto over Mosley.

But the facts are, you can't use the TR/GBP excuse that you just tried to and you also can't change the fact that Mosley was the fight people wanted for Pacquaio against the #1WW #3P4P but he was by their own accord "Too good".

[UTEP]

no, he just murked Hatton and Cotto instead

Mayweather leftovers and a weight drained Cotto, smh

Shane said he'd go down to 140 for Pac and they still ducked his ass.

[SplitSecond]

roach making pac look bad, what else is new

if not for cotto i have no doubt pac would have fought mosley instead

but he was still easing his way into the weightclass and incase the money was right the risk wasn't worth it in roach's eyes

[Da Boxer]

Pac and Cotto will fight anyone.

FMJr., JMM and others are duckmachines picking and chosing.


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[John Barron]

You guys know that they're not in the same:

***8226; Weight Class
***8226; Height

and thus the catchweight compromise...just like the Margarito fight. Him in the lower weight, for not fighting Mosley initially isn't an avoidance. If Pac offers Mosley and Mosley declines then it is an avoidance.

Mayweather, like Mosley, is on a higher weight class as well...

shane was eager to fight at mannyweight. they snubbed him because he was too good.

roach making pac look bad, what else is new

if not for cotto i have no doubt pac would have fought mosley instead

but he was still easing his way into the weightclass and incase the money was right the risk wasn't worth it in roach's eyes

so shane turning himself into a zombie at 142 wasn't easy enough?

oh i forgot, pac only fights fighters coming off losses. he's a risk taker!

[ADP02]

Yeah but how can you use TR/GBP as an excuse when it wasn't an issue back then? Surely that debunks the precise reasoning you just used?

I understand exactly what you're saying with your new reasoning you just popped up with and I understand why Pacquaio's team chose Cotto over Mosley.

But the facts are, you can't use the TR/GBP excuse that you just tried to and you also can't change the fact that Mosley was the fight people wanted for Pacquaio against the #1WW #3P4P but he was by their own accord "Too good".

You used Hatton as your example but Hatton was a 140 fighter not a 147 fighter. Secondly, who from TR would you have suggested that would give Manny, a good fight, a title and good PPV numbers? So yes, I took your example and told you why it is different than Mosley/Cotto situation.

There is more I could have added but that was besides the point and others have already stated it in this thread.

In other words, you can't call that a duck when you just fought instead as your first true WW, a title holder that beat Mosley. Then add that Cotto was a sure thing as far as PPV numbers and a TR fighter and as I said before, something that I knew, most people knew and so it's easy to say, Roach knew, right?

At least those 2 names were the top of the heap. If Manny would be polling Khan/Maidana while there was Floyd who was calling you out, would you be calling Manny a ducker? If you say that Manny ducked Mosley then for sure in that scenario, which is what Floyd is in, should be called a duck of the century!!!

I can just imagine your response " .... but....bla di bla bla ..."

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[SplitSecond]

shane was eager to fight at mannyweight. they snubbed him because he was too good.


so shane turning himself into a zombie at 142 wasn't easy enough?

oh i forgot, pac only fights fighters coming off losses. he's a risk taker!

was cotto coming off a loss?