This Floyd "ducking people" thing was invented by Bob Arum

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  • PAC-BOY
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    • jas
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      • Mr.Fantastic
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        #43
        Originally posted by LarryXXX
        Before he Left Top Rank this was unheard of period...Then as soon as he left Arum invented the HE IS AFRAID OF MARGARITO THING..lets look at the facts behind that

        By Roberto Elmore: After Manny Pacquiao made easy work of Miguel Cotto and Antonio Margarito, the howls of “Floyd ducked both of these fighters” reemerged. Many of these claims have been opinionated and have not yet seen proof of these allegations. I did write an article stating that Mayweather side stepping Margarito was a good move. And financially it was back then.



        But upon my return to the article, I found facts that will support this article. Now, I know there will still be many who will contest these facts and continue with their barrage of name calling. But it’s not my job to control opinions; just give the facts and let the readers decide. But I want you to pay close attention to the quotes and who’s saying what.
        After Mayweather defeated Zab Judah, he was offered 8 million to fight Antonio Margarito on August 12th 2006. Leonard Ellerbe had this to say after the Judah fight.
        Floyd is not 100 percent healthy,” Ellerbe said. “He has a bruised right hand. His hand is not broken. It’s bruised, but it’s a bad bruise. He wants to go into any fight 100 percent healthy. If Antonio Margarito happens to be the best available option when he is healthy, so be it”.

        “We are not turning down Margarito. I want to make that crystal clear. When and if he is the best available option for Floyd’s next fight, that’s the direction he will move in.” If you noticed, that was Ellerbe speaking. Not Floyd. Let’s move on.

        Bob Arum, Mayweather’s promoter at the time said that Mayweather preferred to await the outcome of the May 6 Oscar De La Hoya-Ricardo Mayorga fight instead of committing to Margarito because he would prefer to fight De La Hoya.

        Arum stated that Mayweather would have fought Margarito for the 8 million, but he wanted a guaranteed 10 million to fight Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton. Arum only guaranteed him 7 million. And for those who don’t know Cotto and Hatton were at the Mayweather-Gatti fight and Cotto was ranked number 5 by the ring at the time (Proof: Listen to the commentary Jim Lampley at the end of round 5) . Cotto had just moved up to the 140 pound weight class and he didn’t make an offer to fight Mayweather after the Gatti fight.

        Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn’t interested in participating in. “That’s not in the cards,” Arum said. “He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It’s not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold ‘em and when to fold ‘em. We’ll talk about things down the road.” Notice this part Arum was talking.



        before the Top Rank split please name who he was accused of ducking.....since he left top rank it is only Top Rank fighters who he is accused of ducking..before he left Top Rank Arum said this about Floyd

        No Black Power brah! Arum's claim may be exaggerated but Floyd did duck some fights like a *****. People like you excuse it cause of his color though.

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        • KingTito
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          #44
          Originally posted by jas




          Fantastic post

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          • KaL-EL
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            #45
            You can also say Floyd invented the "its all Arums fault"

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            • BroneloCalvarez
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              #46
              The problem is Floyd has put himself in a weird spot with his contradictions.

              I give him FULL AND COMPLETE CREDIT for fighting all the guys they said he wouldn't...DLH, Hatton, Mosley, etc.

              However, dude has been recorded ON VIDEO saying he picks his fights carefully. Which is fine, that's career management. If you're gonna be on record saying "I choose my fights carefully cause health is important" then it's hard to see you as a come-one-come-all ATG warrior. Floyd has the best skills in the game right now hands down IMO. He just makes it hard to like him with the "cherry-pick" comments he makes himself.

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              • Pimp-Hand
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                #47
                I thought PBFM ducked and dodged his way up to the top, but after this post and comments.....I'm sure of it!!! If it's about the money fight Paq. If it's about fighting the best, put a poll up with the best fighters willing to fight at your weight class. If it's about keeping your "O" , keep cherry picking.

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                • Cinci Champ
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Jc8804
                  I was under the impression that it was invented
                  From every non bias fan outside of Floyd's fan base.

                  Floyd did it to himself. One maybe two guys,but 8 guys
                  un biased really lol ya right

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                  • AVDB
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Renal Colic
                    Then explain to me why Floyd didn't accept Martinez' offer of a fight at 150.

                    It can't be because of the weight, as 150 is closer to 147 than 154. Besides, he's fought at higher weights 3 times now.

                    It can't be because of Martinez' lack of a fan base, as Floyd is currently considering fighting Maidana, and the same Argentinians that will support him would probably have supported Martinez.

                    It can't be because of Bob Arum, as Martinez doesn't fight for him.

                    It can't be because of money, as Martinez was offering an 80/20 split in Floyd's favour.

                    It can't be because Floyd had a better fight lined up, as his next fight was against Guerrero.

                    It can't be because Floyd wouldn't get credit for the win due to Martinez being old or drained, as Mayweather fought a 38-year-old Mosley and a drained Canelo.

                    It can't be because Floyd had to fight his mandatory, Guerrero, as he doesn't care about mandatories or belts ("All belts do is collect dust"). He's recently come out and said he's willing to give the belt to Pacquiao to avoid fighting him.
                    Dang dude, you killed it with this post. You pretty much showed Floyd fights to keep the "0"

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Renal Colic
                      Then explain to me why Floyd didn't accept Martinez' offer of a fight at 150.

                      It can't be because of the weight, as 150 is closer to 147 than 154. Besides, he's fought at higher weights 3 times now.

                      It can't be because of Martinez' lack of a fan base, as Floyd is currently considering fighting Maidana, and the same Argentinians that will support him would probably have supported Martinez.

                      It can't be because of Bob Arum, as Martinez doesn't fight for him.

                      It can't be because of money, as Martinez was offering an 80/20 split in Floyd's favour.

                      It can't be because Floyd had a better fight lined up, as his next fight was against Guerrero.

                      It can't be because Floyd wouldn't get credit for the win due to Martinez being old or drained, as Mayweather fought a 38-year-old Mosley and a drained Canelo.

                      It can't be because Floyd had to fight his mandatory, Guerrero, as he doesn't care about mandatories or belts ("All belts do is collect dust"). He's recently come out and said he's willing to give the belt to Pacquiao to avoid fighting him.
                      The Floyd stans are afraid to accept the truth. Mayweather is a cherrypicker and a ducker. This will surely affect his post-retirement reputation.

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