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  • Originally posted by ironmt View Post
    Didn't the fight sell around 870-900k??
    Didn't the last fight sell above 2 millions PPV?

    Originally posted by ironmt View Post
    Do you have any numbers to show that the PPV was a success?
    It depends of that u mean by saying "success".

    U're ignoring last Pacquiao's failed numbers with Rios like 450k but tryna talking crap on Floyd who being the biggest PPV draw in boxing history?

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    • Originally posted by ironmt View Post
      I recall reading that the fight needed to sell somewhere between 1.1 and 1.2 million to break even. Didn't the fight sell around 870-900k? Wouldn't that result In a substantial loss If the fight did't sell as expected?

      Do you have any numbers to show that the PPV was a success?
      Hence the reason for signing Floyd to a multi-fight contract.

      They knew there were going to be some PPV's that were not going to sell as well as others. The fact that in 2 PPV's Mayweather sold around 3 million PPV's tells you they're being successful.

      And the fact you're saying 800-900K PPV's is a failure, is ridiculous. That "failure" as you allude, doubled the numbers Pacquiao just did. So if Guerrero/Floyd was a failure what was Pacquiao?
      Last edited by JJRod; 02-10-2014, 06:02 PM.

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      • PPV Numbers

        can't wait to see those PPV numbers for the chicken chit Mayweather.

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        • Originally posted by ironmt View Post
          Is this as embarrassing?


          Manny***8217;s last fight in November against Juan Manuel Marquez drew 1.41 million PPV buys, while Floyd***8217;s fight last September against Victor Ortiz drew 1.25 PPV buys.
          Floyd***8217;s fight with Marquez in 2009 drew 1 million PPV buys.

          Pacquiao***8217;s fight with Antonio Margarito in 2010 drew 1.5 million PPV buys, while Mayweather***8217;s fight Shane Mosley drew 1.4 million PPV buys. Despite Mosley being perceived as a shot fighter, Pacquiao drew 1.3 million PPV buys in their May 2011 fight.

          In total Pacquiao***8217;s last three fights have drawn 3.86 million PPV buys, while Mayweather***8217;s last three fights have pulled in 3.65 million PPV buys. In summation Pacquiao drew in 210,000 more PPV buys than Mayweather did. When you take into account the higher number of PPV buys that Pacquiao***8217;s fights have drawn it translates into a cool $10,000,000 in cash.

          It is true that the Floyd Mayweather ***8211; Oscar De La Hoya fight in May 2007 drew a record 2.4 million PPV hits. Many boxing observers largely attribute the high PPV numbers in that fight to the extreme popularity of the Golden Boy, Oscar De La Hoya and the fact that it was held on the Cinco De Mayo holiday.

          But Pacquiao***8217;s recent higher PPV numbers only tell part of the story. In the same three fights Pacquiao sold out the venues, while Mayweather***8217;s last three fights were not sold out. In addition, when Manny Pacquiao fights at the MGM Grand Arena in Las Vegas a significantly higher number of high rollers from Asia fly into Vegas for his fights. The economic impact in Las Vegas for a Pacquiao fight far outstrips that of any other fighter.
          Weren't the final numbers 1.1 million? Not bad but it's not 1.4 at all....there were posts on this very website about it...so Ortiz is a bigger star then JMM you're saying?

          Manny Pacquiao vs. Antonio Margarito Pacquiao wins by UD (120–108, 118–110, 119–109) 1,150,000

          Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez III Pacquiao wins by MD (115–113, 114–114, 116–112) 1,250,000

          Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Márquez IV Márquez wins by KO in round 6 1,150,000

          I just tend to call out bull**** when I read it. Get a better hobby....those numbers took all of 15 seconds to find.
          Last edited by Grimgash; 02-10-2014, 06:55 PM.

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          • Roach sees it too !!

            Freddy also sees that Maidana is more dangerous for Mayweather than Khan. Maidana has far more variation in his game since working with Garcia. His relentless pressure will give Mayweather problems and make the fight far more intriguing than the self appointed "experts" will have you believe. He threw wicked fast combinations against Broner, going to both body and head and it will be difficult to defend against that for anyone. Maidana has momentum at the moment, Khan may have won the vote but in all honesty i don't think many believe that vote was anything but a complete farce.

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            • This Khan PPV is going to be a disaster. Danny Garcia won't be on the undercard either. Lets face it Guerrero flopped and he was coming off an epic win against Andre Berto in an all out brawl. Khan is 2 tune up wins removed from a horrible KO loss to Danny. People aren't amped about Khan the way they were when Guerrero beasted on Berto. Khan is British but he isn't wildly popular the way a Ricky Hatton was. Its a false perception. Everyone knows going into this fight Khan has no shot even if he does show a couple flashes of competition early. Personally I hope it does flop. I think Khan was rigged to win the Mayweather promotions poll and the whole letting the fans pick a fight between 2 guys we don't want to see him against was just absurd. His whole stance of Pacman wanting the fight because of IRS issues and losses also doesn't sit well with me. That is not an excuse to duck the biggest challenge out there especially is Pacman is willing to bend over backwards to remove all obstacles that are currently preventing the fight from taking place. Mayweather needs a taste of reality and I hope the fans give it to him by skipping this PPV or streaming that shiz. Fighting a guy coming off 2 tune up wins is unacceptable at this level and should not be tolerated. Point blank.

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              • C'mon guys, lets be realistic here. The "only" way to defeat money is a "puncher's chance" from a "puncher guy" like Maidana. Khan doesn't posses that @ 147. That's why I think Maidana has a chance rather than Khan.

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                • I always believed Khan had a better chance against Floyd with Roach as his trainer. Roach's gameplan against Floyd was successful with De La Hoya. Oscar was beating Floyd until he ran out of steam in the 10th round. It was the last time where Floyd didn't have the fight in the bag by the 7th or 8th round.

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                  • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                    when he had khan-he said he had 2 fighters who could beat floyd. Now that khan is with Virgil and may get the floyd fight-Freddie is singing a different tune. And the ppv won't sell.

                    Freddie would fit in well here on NSB with all of the other Manny mouthpieces that switch their tune/logic/reasoning depending on the discussion topic and the fighters are being discussed.
                    Actually it's the Floyd waving fans that do like his hero Floyd does ..... contradict themselves!

                    Here is a simple question. Why did Floyd change his mind or should I say, singing to a different tune and put new roadblocks on the table against Manny? If you answer it the way you did above then it's all cool ..... but I know you will NOT!

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                    • At this point I'm pretty sure all the fans out there know that neither Khan or Maidana will beat Mayweather. The choice is going to come down to who will do the best, or come closest to beating Mayweather. In that situation Khan is the right choice.

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