Comments Thread For: Mayweather Sr: If Maidana Wins, Broner's Game is Over

[Weebler I]

Roger and Sr. always crappin on Broner.

[hitking]

Roger and Sr. always crappin on Broner.

Which is ****** as f.uck. That boy is ZERO threat to Floyd. Roger gives honest critiques. Sr is just an annoying loadmouth who's lucky that his son is using him as basically a sub. Sr is an average trainer, and that's probably being too nice.

[BoxingScribe]

Word on the DC streets is Broner was hanging out with Anthony Peterson and both of them were spotted snorting *******. And I got that from a VERY reliable source.

[hitking]

Wtf kinds of excuse is that? He's got to have one of the ******est teams ever assembled if they were caught off guard by Meydana. He fought exactly how he fought all his previous fights, relentless pressure and overhand rights mixed in with some left hooks and a jab to set up his shots.

He had all fight to adjust and kept getting tagged with that left hook and overhand right all night long. The fact that your prepared and work hard doesn't guarantee success. Broners style will never beat Maidana he would have to completely change his game plan where he's using a lot more movement and letting his hands to before Maidanc.

In the rounds where Broner wasn't dropped, or visably buzzed, I thought he did fine. And actually got the better of it more times than not. I don't think he ever fully recovered from the first two rounds. Is that an excuse? Maybe. But he was all kinds of f.ucked up after being dropped in the second. And personally, I think that if he wasn't "boxing's next superstar", the fight probably would have been stopped. This time around, he knows exactly what he's getting into. Will it make a difference? We have to wait and see.

[leericists]

i agree that ab shouldn't fool with the rematch, but for different reasons. Regardless of how many of these ****** muthaf.uckas on here like to believe. The first fight wasn't a white wash. It was a very grueling fight for both. With the major difference being ab was unable to deal with chino's power and chino being able to eat ab's power. Can he improve? Possibily. But eventually, he's gonna get tagged. If he can deal with it this time around, he'll be fine. If not, we're probably looking at a replay of the first fight.

My reasoning for not thinking a rematch is necessary is because even if he wins, what does it mean. Maidana is a fringe welterweight. So even if ab wins, all it does is re-establishes him as a fringe welterweight. And the reality is, he's not a welterweight. And he's not gonna be successful in that division. To me, it would just make so much more sense to drop down to 40 and fight peterson on floyd's may undercard. If he wins that fight, it would set up a huge showdown with garcia later in the year.

At day's end, kudos to the kid for wanting to jump back on the horse when he doesn't have to. As a fan of his, i'd like to believe its competitiveness and pride that's pushing him to do it. But i think a major part of it is him still having visions of being boxing's next superstar. And that mindset is partly the reason why his career is currently in the situation its in. Good luck to him. But as long as being a star is more important to him than being a good fighter, he's gonna continue to have setback. I don't know what his ceiling is as a fighter. But if he keeps making the decisions he's making. He's on the road to being this era's ricardo mayorga. A gateskeeper for up-n-comers and a tune-up for top fighters. And he'll make a good living doing that because he's capable of turning any fight and any promotion an event with his mouth and antics, much like mayorga.

adrien biggest weakness is dealing with the left hook
u look at all his fights he always get hit by the left hook clean
only difference is that at 130 135 he wasnt getting hurt and now he is
can he change that in 4 5 months im not sure
but if he can find a way to stop that left hooks he will beat maidana and be fine and have a great carreer if he cant he will never be a top 5 pound 4 pound
also yeah go bac
k to 140

[hitking]

Word on the DC streets is Broner was hanging out with Anthony Peterson and both of them were spotted snorting *******. And I got that from a VERY reliable source.

Wouldn't doubt it. Won't help him maximize his potential. But Sweet Pea was the biggest cokehead ever. ATG. Calzage was a cokehead. Arguably most accomplished super middleeight ever. Hatton was a cokehead. Pretty sure he's a HOF'r. If you can fight you can fight.

[hitking]

adrien biggest weakness is dealing with the left hook
u look at all his fights he always get hit by the left hook clean
only difference is that at 130 135 he wasnt getting hurt and now he is
can he change that in 4 5 months im not sure
but if he can find a way to stop that left hooks he will beat maidana and be fine and have a great carreer if he cant he will never be a top 5 pound 4 pound
also yeah go bac
k to 140

I think a lotta that has to do with him not knowing when it use to shoulder roll and not using any lateral movement. That style alone leaves you open to left hooks because you protect your chin with the left shoulder. But the temple is left wide open. That's why Floyd stays outta punching range and always uses lateral movement. Another thing is AB uses the shoulder roll too much. Floyd doesn't use it all the time, especially in the middle of the ring, especially if he gets hit a coupole times early. More times than not. In the middle of the ring Floyd's stance is pretty conventional with both hands up. Floyd usually goes to the shoulder roll when he's against the ropes. AB basically stands right in front of guys shoulder rolling. And as you stated, it was fine at the lower weights and against Paulie. But when he ran up on somebody that could crack, he was in a world of trouble. It also didn't help being in with a naturally bigger guy.

[billeau2]

I agree that AB shouldn't fool with the rematch, but for different reasons. Regardless of how many of these ****** muthaf.uckas on here like to believe. The first fight wasn't a white wash. It was a very grueling fight for both. With the major difference being AB was unable to deal with Chino's power and Chino being able to eat AB's power. Can he improve? Possibily. But eventually, he's gonna get tagged. If he can deal with it this time around, he'll be fine. If not, we're probably looking at a replay of the first fight.

My reasoning for not thinking a rematch is necessary is because even if he wins, what does it mean. Maidana is a fringe welterweight. So even if AB wins, all it does is re-establishes him as a fringe welterweight. And the reality is, he's not a welterweight. And he's not gonna be successful in that division. To me, it would just make so much more sense to drop down to 40 and fight Peterson on Floyd's May undercard. If he wins that fight, it would set up a huge showdown with Garcia later in the year.

At day's end, kudos to the kid for wanting to jump back on the horse when he doesn't have to. As a fan of his, I'd like to believe its competitiveness and pride that's pushing him to do it. But I think a major part of it is him still having visions of being boxing's next superstar. And that mindset is partly the reason why his career is currently in the situation its in. Good luck to him. But as long as being a star is more important to him than being a good fighter, he's gonna continue to have setback. I don't know what his ceiling is as a fighter. But if he keeps making the decisions he's making. He's on the road to being this era's Ricardo Mayorga. A gateskeeper for up-n-comers and a tune-up for top fighters. And he'll make a good living doing that because he's capable of turning any fight and any promotion an event with his mouth and antics, much like Mayorga.

Wow! you make a lot of sense...Great analogy to Mayorga. Yes, Bronner gets more press but some of us thought El matador was going to tear the middle divisions a new *******....even if it meant acting like one himself. Your spot on about what Bronner has to do.

[billeau2]

Which is ****** as f.uck. That boy is ZERO threat to Floyd. Roger gives honest critiques. Sr is just an annoying loadmouth who's lucky that his son is using him as basically a sub. Sr is an average trainer, and that's probably being too nice.

Wow again! great minds are in the same gutter...couldnt agree more on this point as well.

[billeau2]

I think a lotta that has to do with him not knowing when it use to shoulder roll and not using any lateral movement. That style alone leaves you open to left hooks because you protect your chin with the left shoulder. But the temple is left wide open. That's why Floyd stays outta punching range and always uses lateral movement. Another thing is AB uses the shoulder roll too much. Floyd doesn't use it all the time, especially in the middle of the ring, especially if he gets hit a coupole times early. More times than not. In the middle of the ring Floyd's stance is pretty conventional with both hands up. Floyd usually goes to the shoulder roll when he's against the ropes. AB basically stands right in front of guys shoulder rolling. And as you stated, it was fine at the lower weights and against Paulie. But when he ran up on somebody that could crack, he was in a world of trouble. It also didn't help being in with a naturally bigger guy.

he also does not utilize angles. If you look at the first knockdown you can see Madianna chase him half across the damn ring! (yes exxagerating)....And often he tries to simply dodge and duck instead of utilizing proper body movement and angling off line.