Is there any MW/SMW/LHW is boxing history that beats a prime Roy Jones Junior?

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  • Ham Porter
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    #21
    Roy Jones fans are among the most deluded of fanbases of any sport. It's one thing to claim his absolute supremacy at 160, where he was absolutely huge for the weight; at relatively new division like 168, which is about as deep as a puddle from a historical standpoint - but 175, too?

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    • Luilun
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      #22
      Micheal Spinks, Bob Foster, Mathew Sadd Muhammad, Dwight Muhammad Qwai
      Sergey Kolavak or what ever his name is There's probably more

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      • LoadedWraps
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        #23
        Originally posted by The Viper
        Was at work discussing this and some old italian guys mentioned Vito Antuofermo could take him, to be honest i don't know much about him.....what do you guy's think?
        He wouldnt' last a day in the golden age of boxing. He is the best of his era at best, and even that's debatable.

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        • Jloro
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          #24
          Yall musta forgot. Roy beats everyone in his prime

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          • BattlingNelson
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            #25
            Contemporaries:

            At 168: Nunn, Liles would have had a great chance.

            At 175: Tarver, Johnson obviously. Michalszewski would have had a good shot.

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            • luke1979
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              I think Steve Collins would have given him all he could handle, I think Roy or his team thought the same hence why he avoided him. Steve is a genuine fighting man, it wasn't about the money. To this day he still wants the fight. I wouldn't want to see it now but its ridiculous that it never happened at the time. Also prime Calzaghe would have been competitive but I think Roy would have won although not as easily as most dismissively think. The only guy I think could have beaten Roy is Eubank, he could take Roy's power, break him mentally and knock him out on his best day. I think their styles would gel and it would have been a great fight. Who knows though, he never fought any of them in his prime. Had he done so he may well of beat them all but I think it would have taken alot out of him. It is a shame we never saw these match ups at the time. Roy is a great fighter and those guys could have helped him demonstrate that even more. He is also a lovely guy, I was lucky enough to have breakfast with him in Planet Hollywood Vegas before the Hopkins Calzaghe fight. He said it would be an ugly fight and Joe would get it on points, he was spot on.

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              • MisterHardtop
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                #27
                Originally posted by Luilun
                Micheal Spinks, Bob Foster, Mathew Sadd Muhammad, Dwight Muhammad Qwai
                Sergey Kolavak or what ever his name is There's probably more
                This is a good list of light heavyweights to beat the great Roy Jones, minus a certain Mr Kovalev. I think Spinks, Foster and Charles (going back a bit now) probably have the best chance at the weight. Moore would also be a tough bout, I'd have it a 50/50 split.

                At super middleweight, in their primes, I can't think of anyone beating Roy Jones, apart from possibly a prime Eubank, who Jones himself admitted would be a stylistic nightmare for him. In fact, he is the only Jones contemporary I can see beating him, or riding it close.

                For those of you who may not have seen Jones in his prime, which I believe started at the Hopkins fight and ended in the first Tarver bout, it may be hard to understand why he is rated so highly. Looking at his wins, there are very few impressive names but to see Jones fight in that period was like watching Nadia Comeneci in the '76 Olympics, or Ali from 64-67 or a young Maradonna...each one of those greats was a once in a life time talent. That is why, based purely on what I saw, it's hard to pick anyone but the absolute best to beat him.

                Even at middleweight I can't imagine any one other than Robinson or Hagler beating him. No other middleweight would be bale to deal with his speed, dynamism or power.

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                • LacedUp
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Cupo303
                  Pfft,

                  Even though he soundly defeated James Toney, lets not forget that Toney himself wasn't his prime self when he faced him. Perhaps, the fight would've been different if it had happened at 175. Toney struggled making 168.

                  The one thing I notice about guys like Roy Jones and Mike Tyson is that they get coddled by fans. Fanboys always look out for them by pointing out when they were at their prime and when they weren't. What about the guys that they defeated, who weren't in their prime. Toney may have been "prime" age wise, but he was no longer a Prime SUPER-MIDDLEWEIGHT. His fat ass should have moved up a couple of fights prior to the RJJ fight.

                  SO MY ANSWER IS JAMES TONEY. The 12 round domination is not conclusive to write his abilities off. He has the skills necessary to beat Jones.
                  Toney wasn't prime?

                  Are you serious?

                  Tell me then, which great win of Toney's came after the Roy Jones fight.

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                  • slimshandy69
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                    #29
                    Roy jones was pedded up to his ass. hIS PRIME IS REDUNDANT.

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                    • IronDanHamza
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                      Spinks, foster, Tunney, conn, Harold, ezzard

                      It would have to be a hof atg caliber fighter,,,, Muhammad saed, and Marvin johnson would also be tough, and much better than anyone Roy ever beat at lhw

                      But let's be real,, Roy beat a lot of paper champs and washed up fighters at lhw,, he doesn't have one legit win over another great prime lhw or even hof caliber,,
                      I don't see Harold Johnson beating Roy Jones.

                      Harold Johnson's an ATG, my third favourite fighter ever and greater than Roy IMO and certainly at LHW but H2H I don't see him winning. Johnson would cause him problems most definitely in a similar way to Montel Griffin with a solid jab, timing and countering but Roy speed advantage is going to be a problem and eventually I see Johnson getting stopped late.

                      Tunney and Spinks would be competitive but again I see the speed advantage being key same with Conn.

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