Is there any MW/SMW/LHW is boxing history that beats a prime Roy Jones Junior?

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #31
    Originally posted by BattlingNelson
    Contemporaries:

    At 168: Nunn, Liles would have had a great chance.

    At 175: Tarver, Johnson obviously. Michalszewski would have had a good shot.
    The questions asking a prime Roy.

    So not sure how Tarver and especially Johnson are obvious examples.

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      #32
      Originally posted by luke1979
      I think Steve Collins would have given him all he could handle, I think Roy or his team thought the same hence why he avoided him. Steve is a genuine fighting man, it wasn't about the money. To this day he still wants the fight. I wouldn't want to see it now but its ridiculous that it never happened at the time. Also prime Calzaghe would have been competitive but I think Roy would have won although not as easily as most dismissively think. The only guy I think could have beaten Roy is Eubank, he could take Roy's power, break him mentally and knock him out on his best day. I think their styles would gel and it would have been a great fight. Who knows though, he never fought any of them in his prime. Had he done so he may well of beat them all but I think it would have taken alot out of him. It is a shame we never saw these match ups at the time. Roy is a great fighter and those guys could have helped him demonstrate that even more. He is also a lovely guy, I was lucky enough to have breakfast with him in Planet Hollywood Vegas before the Hopkins Calzaghe fight. He said it would be an ugly fight and Joe would get it on points, he was spot on.
      Steve Collins has absolutely no chance.

      He gets destroyed by Roy Jones.

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      • -Kev-
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        #33
        Originally posted by Cupo303
        Pfft,

        Even though he soundly defeated James Toney, lets not forget that Toney himself wasn't his prime self when he faced him. Perhaps, the fight would've been different if it had happened at 175. Toney struggled making 168.

        The one thing I notice about guys like Roy Jones and Mike Tyson is that they get coddled by fans. Fanboys always look out for them by pointing out when they were at their prime and when they weren't. What about the guys that they defeated, who weren't in their prime. Toney may have been "prime" age wise, but he was no longer a Prime SUPER-MIDDLEWEIGHT. His fat ass should have moved up a couple of fights prior to the RJJ fight.

        SO MY ANSWER IS JAMES TONEY. The 12 round domination is not conclusive to write his abilities off. He has the skills necessary to beat Jones.
        There was nothing in the James Toney fight that showed me Toney would have done anything differently in a rematch in any weight class.

        You see, there are fights like Morales-Garcia I, Mayweather-De La Hoya, Bradley-Marquez where you think 'wow, the loser was very competitive, if he was prime and in an optiimal weight class i'd imagine how the fight would have gone.'

        Then there are the whitewashes, the Jones-Toney's, the Mayweather-Marquez's, the Hopkins-Trinidad's where the loser gets humiliated so badly, that although some fans live in this fantasy island where the loser was just too small small(Trinidad, Marquez), or too weight drained, or too bloated, or too old, or unfocused, and if they had all of those stars aligned, that they could have reversed the outcome and actually win...WTF.

        Nothing in the Jones-Toney fight showed me that Toney would have won anywhere else, in any other time excluding a way past it 35+ year old Jones.

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        • ironmt
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          #34
          No there Is not, he was untouchable In his prime. Jones showed no weaknesses and was one of the fastest boxers In history.

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            #35
            Originally posted by The Viper
            Was at work discussing this and some old italian guys mentioned Vito Antuofermo could take him, to be honest i don't know much about him.....what do you guy's think?
            no way in hell

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            • BigAlexSand
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              #36
              Out of the many fighter in the past, the only fighter that makes me think would have made from a great fight would have been Sugar Ray Robinson. Wise of matching in speed, power, and skill; Sugar match on everything. Their athletic gift are about the same and skills match.

              Monzon would have got frustrated very easily by Roy's speed and movement. Charles would have been KO'ed; speed and power too much. Lomatta could have gone all 15 but would have been a bloody pulp.

              Roy is a once in a life time boxer and the one before him was Robinson. The two of them would have been possibly the most entertaining fight in my dreams and many more..

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              • BoxingGenius27
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                #37
                No one beats prime Roy Jones Jr...

                No one

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                • slimshandy69
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                  #38
                  as I say, no one beats him as he was on drugs. Why are you guys failing to mention this?

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                  • Mikhnienko
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Luilun
                    Micheal Spinks, Bob Foster, Mathew Sadd Muhammad, Dwight Muhammad Qwai
                    Sergey Kolavak or what ever his name is There's probably more
                    Good call look at the first Griffin fight and imagine him in there with Qawi.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                      Steve Collins has absolutely no chance.

                      He gets destroyed by Roy Jones.
                      I wanted to see that fight in 97, but i will agree, collins earned a shot with roy but he had little hope,, I think he would have looked like vinny paz in there vs roy

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