Comments Thread For: Groves: Carl Froch is Scared of The Damage in Rematch

[D4thincarnation]

Degale appears from that at least, to have really chilled and humbled out there. Fair play for giving George the props for his performance and I agree on his comments of Froch being exposed.

DeGale is not a bad guy, but the sad fact of the matter, being a d ick get headlines and get you exposure.

DeGale was struggling to pay his bills last year, what is quite humbling, talented boxer but just needs some big fights.

Wouldn't mind seeing DeGale vs Bika

[D4thincarnation]

There was no clamour for an immediate rematch? Who did Groves fight instead?

Paul Smith
Francisco Sierra
50 year old Glen Johnson
Dario Balmaceda
Baker Bakerat
Noe Gonzalez

I'm glad Groves gave the fans what they really wanted by staging these epic fights instead.

Lot higher calibre of opponent that Froch did in his first 20 fights.

[D4thincarnation]

Common....always. Are you down to debating semantics because you have nothing else to challenge me on? If a promoter is dumb enough not to put a rematch clause in a contract against a voluntary then they aren't doing their job probably.

There's nothing "dodgy" or uncommon about the contract Groves was offered and rejected.

Maybe you really do need schooling, if you think these words are interchangeable.

[D4thincarnation]

"Groves priced himself out of a rematch"; "I was offered more $$$ to fight Chavez Jr in Vegas"; "Andre Ward has offered me a rematch" etc.

So no need for Froch to vacate then?


So if Froch does vacate, what could this mean?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Lot higher calibre of opponent that Froch did in his first 20 fights.

Even if that were true, what the hell does it have to do with anything I said? Were any of those fights being clamoured for? No...so what was the excuse for not taking the immediate DeGale rematch again?

Maybe you really do need schooling, if you think these words are interchangeable.

Ahh I see you're going to go down this road instead of addressing the actual topic.

[D4thincarnation]

Even if that were true, what the hell does it have to do with anything I said? Were any of those fights being clamoured for? No...so what was the excuse for not taking the immediate DeGale rematch again?



Ahh I see you're going to go down this road instead of addressing the actual topic.

Groves was a novice, his fan bas was small, there was no clamour for any big fights. He was learning his trade, working on his technique and improving all the time. Maybe Froch should have done some of this and then would know how to avoid a right hand every now and again.


And the topic at hand is Froch is scared of the damage he would take in a rematch.

Vacating his IBF belt is a clear indicator that he is or at the very least, knows he doesn't want to take another beating like that again.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Groves was a novice, his fan bas was small, there was no clamour for any big fights. He was learning his trade, working on his technique and improving all the time. Maybe Froch should have done some of this and then would know how to avoid a right hand every now and again.


And the topic at hand is Froch is scared of the damage he would take in a rematch.

Vacating his IBF belt is a clear indicator that he is or at the very least, knows he doesn't want to take another beating like that again.

Again you are avoiding the fact that Froch offered Groves a very good, standard contract. He is clearly not scared of facing George Groves again.

The only reason he would vacate the title is for a big money fight in Vegas against Chavez Jr. Froch does not need George Groves to earn a crust. It's the other way around.

[D4thincarnation]

Again you are avoiding the fact that Froch offered Groves a very good, standard contract. He is clearly not scared of facing George Groves again.

The only reason he would vacate the title is for a big money fight in Vegas against Chavez Jr. Froch does not need George Groves to earn a crust. It's the other way around.

No it wasn't a good standard contract.

And if he offered him this contract and and the IBF purse bid give Groves less, then why not take it?

Unless the offer was not genuine and had unacceptable clauses in them.

Groves earned his crust and then some with the beating he dishes out to Froch.

If Froch is a man of his word, he does not vacate, he fights Groves.

If he is scared of another beating, he vacates.

It still up in the air, what is it 80 days to go now?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

No it wasn't a good standard contract.

Please explain how? You've already shown a distinct lack of knowledge on the intricacies of contracts.

And if he offered him this contract and and the IBF purse bid give Groves less, then why not take it?

Unless the offer was not genuine and had unacceptable clauses in them.

Groves earned his crust and then some with the beating he dishes out to Froch.

If Froch is a man of his word, he does not vacate, he fights Groves.

If he is scared of another beating, he vacates.

It still up in the air, what is it 80 days to go now?

I have already proven that it was a standard contract repeatedly. You gave up trying to prove it wasn't after I proved you wrong on the 3rd or 4th example you tried to give.

Who said Froch isn't going to take it? You do realise that George Groves is the one holding up the fight because he's not happy with the money on offer?

Groves doesn't earn **** anywhere else. He needs Froch. Froch doesn't need him.

[D4thincarnation]

I have already proven that it was a standard contract repeatedly. You gave up trying to prove it wasn't after I proved you wrong on the 3rd or 4th example you tried to give.

Who said Froch isn't going to take it? You do realise that George Groves is the one holding up the fight because he's not happy with the money on offer?

Groves doesn't earn **** anywhere else. He needs Froch. Froch doesn't need him.

You have a copy of the contract at hand do you, I sure would like a read.

I hope does Froch take it, I don't like liars and charlatans.

If the fight doesn't happen and Froch keeps his belt then it is obviously Groves's fault.

Like I said lets see what happens.