Regarding Molina-Kirkland, why is this ignored like it never happened?

[Doctor_Tenma]

Tim Bradley blatantly cheats with his headbutts.
Floyd Mayweather blatantly cheats by using his elbow.
blah blah blah.

A fight is a fight man. Molina fought a tricky, technical fight and used clinching to an advantage. And he FOUGHT excellent in the process....this wasn't Akinwande/Lewis were all Henry Akinwande did was clinch AND got DQ'd for it.


The bottom line was everyone knows Molina won that fight.

Not the same, when is the last time Bradley's head became an issue? Mayweather's elbows is an exaggeration as well. Molina does this excessively, it's a part of his arsenal now.

[DoktorSleepless]

Kirkland should have been disqualified for taking his mystery pills then.

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Originally Posted by BoxingGenius27

You spend more time talking about Wlad-Pov than you do about Molina's cheating tactics.

If I remember correctly, you predicted Molina to win before the fight. Is this why you have yet to acknowledge this blatant foul fest and feel Molina was robbed despite cheating?

You're the one who brought up Wlad/Povetkin and said Molina/Kirkland was worse, when it damn well wasn't.

Molina was robbed. We don't know what would have happened those last two rounds, and he was disqualified because the ref was an incompetent jackass. There are a **** ton of fights like this or worse. It's not fun to watch, but if a fighter isn't being told to stop, why should he? You're basically b*tching because Kirkland wasn't good enough to deal with Molina's clinching.

I rememeber Lmao cause Kirkland was supposed to be this monster but got handled like a b*tch by little Molina. Lol


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[hhs661]

Every Carlos Molina fight I act like they never happened. Dude is basura

[BoxingGenius27]

Wlad does this every fight. Devon Alexander beat Maidana doing the exact same thing. Hopkins does it all the time. Ward did it against Kessler and Green and Bika.

You said a schit ton of fights that were worse than Kirk-Molina

Now you're saying Alexander-Maidana, Ward-Kessler/Green/Bika are worse than the video you see on the front page?

So specifically how many clinches were involved.... and LMAO at you comparing Ward vs anybody or Alexander-Maidana to Molina-Kirk.

Since it's about clinches, specifically, how many blatant clinches without punching are in the fights you're talking about

This might get embarrassing but I'll let you do it to yourself.

[bojangles1987]

You said a schit ton of fights that were worse than Kirk-Molina

Now you're saying Alexander-Maidana, Ward-Kessler/Green/Bika are worse than the video you see on the front page?

So specifically how many clinches were involved.... and LMAO at you comparing Ward vs anybody or Alexander-Maidana to Molina-Kirk.

Since it's about clinches, specifically, how many blatant clinches without punching are in the fights you're talking about

This might get embarrassing but I'll let you do it to yourself.

I have no idea how many clinches are in these fights. I don't count. The only reason I know how many clinches are in any fight are for the ones where people constantly start threads bringing it up.

Ward used clinching and fouling as a clear tactic against Kessler. So did Alexander against Maidana. So does Hopkins. Lennox did it. Ruiz did it in every fight. What Molina did was not new or worse than anything we've seen before. You're just mad because it happened to Kirkland.

[Ringlife]

Molina is horrible to watch. I don't like seeing all that holding and clinching myself. I got the same feeling the way this fight ended like the Groves vs Froch fight. Both refs ruined the end of these two fights for us ref wise. I felt Froch and Kirkland could have stopped their opponents later in those fights. We will never know thanks to those refs.

[-PBP-]

Molina cheated and the ref was incompetent on both ends.

And who has tried to clinch Cotto the way Molina did Kirk? Who?

Maybe Cotto should fight Molina and we'll see how he neutralizes a wrestling match.

So do something about. Hit his ass behind the head, head butt his ass or punch him in the nuts. Its a damn fight. That will get the refs attention.

Or better yet, fight your way out of or work inside the clinch. Kirkland was lost and didn't know what the hell to do.

I mention Cotto because he is STRONG in the clinch and rarely lets fighters wrap him up and render him useless.

I'm shocked that the guy that calls himself "Mandingo Warrior" allowed **** like this to happen over and over again.

[Dinamita 03]

So do something about. Hit his ass behind the head, head butt his ass or punch him in the nuts. Its a damn fight. That will get the refs attention.

Or better yet, fight your way out of or work inside the clinch. Kirkland was lost and didn't know what the hell to do.

I mention Cotto because he is STRONG in the clinch and rarely lets fighters wrap him up and render him useless.

I'm shocked that the guy that calls himself "Mandingo Warrior" allowed **** like this to happen over and over again.

That's exactly what I was thinking when watching the video. Obviously Molina initiated the clinching but it seemed like Kirkland put no effort into breaking out or disrupting the clinch simply waiting on the ref to break them up.

[kiaba360]

Because it was a horribly boring and frustrating fight to watch.