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    #71
    Originally posted by hitking
    I ain't avoiding ****. I been said I wish Ward would move up. But this ain't about Ward, its about GGG. Furthermore, Ward has proven himself. GGG ain't done ****. His d1ckriders love to toss out that nobody at 60 will fight him. And even though I think that's a crock of ****. Let's pretend its true. If nobody at 60 will fight him. Yet he's determined to stay at 60. That's sounds like an excellent excuse to fight ****ty competition. Especially when you've said you'll fight anybody from 54-68. And especially when you've got a legit opponent at 68 saying "let's get it."
    He has to own his division first. He has to fight Martinez. why leave 160. He shouldn't have said that it be dumb to move up now.

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    • AVDB
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      #72
      Originally posted by Davis40
      He has to own his division first. He has to fight Martinez. why leave 160. He shouldn't have said that it be dumb to move up now.
      He wants him to lose to the one guy that can beat him, that's why

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        #73
        Originally posted by AVDB
        He wants him to lose to the one guy that can beat him, that's why
        Golovkin don't even weigh that much at the start of camp! Started 167 for adama

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        • hitking
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          #74
          Originally posted by AVDB
          Boxing has a plethora of styles and I understand that he isn't a defensive wizard or slick fighter that relies on fighting on the back foot but wow, at such an ignorant statement! GGG is blasting his opponents out of the water and just because he isn't outpointing his opponents with UDs and getting KOs, you look down at him? Face-first brawlers you call them right? Just so you know, boxing needs its offensive fighters just as much as it's "technical wizards" like Ward. It's a personal choice and I find Ward's style quite displeasing to watch. I respect it's effectiveness however.

          Yea, GGG needs to hurry it up. That's why I made it a point to emphasize GGG's fight frequency. He's after unification and wants Sergio. He wants Geale. He's forced to wait. He's going to catch up if Ward keeps chasing JCC jr. and the like only fighting once or twice a year as if he's making Mayweather PPV money. Ward is way more frustrating because, what's stopping him? Stevenson and Kovalev spark that as$, that's what
          First of all, I didn't say one f.uckin' word about GGG's style. He has the tools. He cuts off the ring beautifully. He's a great body puncher. He's an accurate puncher. And while not a defensive wizard, he's definitely defensively responsible. That said, he's doing it against pathetic competition, which is what I DID AND WILL CONTINUE TO POINT OUT. Don't get frustrated when people don't drink the kool-aid. And like I said, its not like he's a fresh face. He's been fighting pathetic competition for nearly a decade. So everything you say about Ward not wanting to step up can be said about GGG, times 1000.

          As for their activity, or lack thereof. Ward has been injury prone. Don't see how it can be held against him that he gets hurt. And I don't care if GGG fights four times a f.uckin' week if he's fighting tomato cans. I'm about as hardcore as a fight fan can be and I have to reference boxrec for his opponents far too often. And for a 32yr old, with a decorated amateur career, and nearly a decade as a pro that's flat f.uckin pathetic. No matter how many goodboys or whatever the f.uck corny ass spin his supporters try and put on it.

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            #75
            Originally posted by hitking
            First of all, I didn't say one f.uckin' word about GGG's style. He has the tools. He cuts off the ring beautifully. He's a great body puncher. He's an accurate puncher. And while not a defensive wizard, he's definitely defensively responsible. That said, he's doing it against pathetic competition, which is what I DID AND WILL CONTINUE TO POINT OUT. Don't get frustrated when people don't drink the kool-aid. And like I said, its not like he's a fresh face. He's been fighting pathetic competition for nearly a decade. So everything you say about Ward not wanting to step up can be said about GGG, times 1000.

            As for their activity, or lack thereof. Ward has been injury prone. Don't see how it can be held against him that he gets hurt. And I don't care if GGG fights four times a f.uckin' week if he's fighting tomato cans. I'm about as hardcore as a fight fan can be and I have to reference boxrec for his opponents far too often. And for a 32yr old, with a decorated amateur career, and nearly a decade as a pro that's flat f.uckin pathetic. No matter how many goodboys or whatever the f.uck corny ass spin his supporters try and put on it.
            Originally posted by hitking
            What you either fail to, or neglect to realize is that GGG is older than Ward. They competed and medaled in the exact same 2004 Olympic Games. And they been pros damn near the same amount of time. And while Ward has dominated and cleaned out a division. GGG's **** looks like something that was built at local bars on Toughman night. So please, let's not put the frustration level at "their lack of opposition" on the same level. Ward has earned the right to pick his spots. Because he's. Proven himself at the highest level of the spot. GGG doesn't get that pass.a lotta GGG supporters love to act as if this cat is 21yrs old and fresh outta the amateurs. So the same "frustration" you have for Ward "avoiding" options at higher weights has to be multiplied by 100 when concerning GGG doing the same.
            Also,,,
            I know you don't care how often he fights but think about it, if three fights can earn Ward the title as the best Super Middleweight and clean out his division, GGG fighting four times a year is a step in the right direction. It's not going to be long before he gets that title from Sergio.

            I wonder why Ward won't even speak about fighting Stevenson or Kovalev. Oh, because both would push his shit in.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
              Yeah....uh..mmm

              factually completely wrong tho.

              Erm...and the only reason HBO ain't airing it live is cos the viewership won't justify an airing at that time - you genuinely believe they're worried that a few boxing obsessives will criticise the viewership figures on a foreign fight? - c'mon that's really clutching - it's not like it's a ppv - the only people who bring up viewership figures are... oh...OK.
              Looks like the Promoters wanted more Bread than
              HBO wanted to Pay!!!
              I feel there making a Mistake, this Cat's the Real Deal!!!

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              • hitking
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                #77
                Originally posted by AVDB
                Also,,,
                I know you don't care how often he fights but think about it, if three fights can earn Ward the title as the best Super Middleweight and clean out his division, GGG fighting four times a year is a step in the right direction. It's not going to be long before he gets that title from Sergio.

                I wonder why Ward won't even speak about fighting Stevenson or Kovalev. Oh, because both would push his shit in.
                First of all, the "toughman" comment was in reference to his level of competition, not his style

                Second of all, GGG can fight as many f.uckin' tomato cans as he wants. The muthaf.uckas that don't wanna fight him now ain't gonna wanna fight him then. Sergio is old and wore out and is on a money grab right now. Do I approve of him avoiding GGG? Of course not..... do I understand it? Absolutely. He's gonna make a gang of money fighting Cotto. If he wins, its very possible Canelo will come calling with an even bigger pot of money. That man is damn near 40 and on the way out. He's trying to make as much money as possible and doesn't give a single f.uck about GGG or his stans.

                Lastly, you keep throwing shots at Ward as if I'm some sort of Ward apologist. I appreciate the boy's talent. But I'm not what I would classify as a fan of his. I don't like that he only wants to fight in Oakland even though he's not even a major draw there. I don't like that he fought Dawson at 68 instead of 75. And I don't like that he appears to be stealing the Bernard Hopkins blueprint of hanging around a division that you've clearly dismantled and waiting on smaller fighters to move up.

                Thatt said, he's earned the right to do that because dismantled his division. You see, I can't b1tch about Ward's resume since winning the gold medal at the 2004 Games. However, there was another fighter that won a silver medal in those games and since, his most accomplished opponent is named Matthew and who's resume is littered with guys who aren't even as good as the guys he fought at the highest level of amateur competition. And we can b1tch, moan, spin, and goodboy about it all night. Still doesn't change the face that Andre Ward has earned the level of d1ckridin' he recieves. You're goodboy hasn't.

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                • hitking
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by AVDB
                  He wants him to lose to the one guy that can beat him, that's why
                  Or maybe, I just wanna see him fight somebody that I don't have to look up on boxrec.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by hitking
                    Or maybe, I just wanna see him fight somebody that I don't have to look up on boxrec.
                    Do you have to look up Sergio? Geale or Murray? 'Cause they're gonna get it

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                    • hitking
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by AVDB
                      Do you have to look up Sergio? Geale or Murray? 'Cause they're gonna get it
                      Well Serg is fighting Cotto in June, so it ain't gonna be him. Just for ****s and giggles. If Floyd came out tomorrow and said, "I want GGG at 54 in May." Would you still be adament about GGG cleaning out 60?

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