Comments Thread For: Gennady Golovkin: Building An International Superstar

[Russian Crushin]

Think of it like this, if Top Rank billed Rigo as the master tactician he is similar in the vain as GGG is this almighty knockout artist (rightly so), it would be somewhat more understandable and maybe draw more fans to his bouts.

I'm no Rigo apologist but with this his skill and ability, you would think Top Rank will atleast make a worthwhile investment in him before going bust on him. As has been noted by many of our Cuban posters on BS, there is a demand for him to fight in Miami. Like GGG is fighting in Monte Carlo to satisfy his European fans fighting on a prime-time slow (all down to K2 mind you), Top Rank can try and throw Rigo towards areas where he is at the very least capable of drawing fans.

Point of my original post is this is how you build international fighters. Have them fight frequently and across the globe is a handy bonus.

The venue in MonteCorlo holds only 800 people. Rigo has i think a $550K minimum, he isnt fighting small guys off tv frequently like Golovkin. Golovkin has never even made 550K yet drew ratings ~3X what rigo did in their last fights

[AVDB]

So which one is it. Nobody at 60 will fight GGG? Or, GGG still has work to do at 60? I'm confused.

You're gonna have a hard time arguing with me because I'm one of the rational people who know and admit GGG is unproven. He needs to step it up and fight better competition. Now, as to the question you're avoiding... What's Andre's excuse for not moving up?

[Citizen Koba]

Actually GGG's popularity has taken a hit the last couple months in the US and in the EE. His people and himself said they would fight anyone from 154-168 and now they are saying it's not fair to ask him to move up to 168. You can't talk out of both sides of your mouth which they have got caught doing the last couple months. Fighting in Monte Carlo as nothing to do with time zones for live tv in EE. They get paid the same amount of $ that they do on HBO and they can fight even bigger bums. HBO isn't airing it because they knew the numbers for the fight would be poor because of time and opponent and now that the #'s are being posted, they didn't want people to know that their superstar had terrible numbers in order to pump the next b level opponent for April. I like GGG but Abel and Loeffler are full of bs.

Yeah....uh..mmm

factually completely wrong tho.

Erm...and the only reason HBO ain't airing it live is cos the viewership won't justify an airing at that time - you genuinely believe they're worried that a few boxing obsessives will criticise the viewership figures on a foreign fight? - c'mon that's really clutching - it's not like it's a ppv - the only people who bring up viewership figures are... oh...OK.

[hitking]

You're gonna have a hard time arguing with me because I'm one of the rational people who know and admit GGG is unproven. He needs to step it up and fight better competition. Now, as to the question you're avoiding... What's Andre's excuse for not moving up?

I ain't avoiding ****. I been said I wish Ward would move up. But this ain't about Ward, its about GGG. Furthermore, Ward has proven himself. GGG ain't done ****. His d1ckriders love to toss out that nobody at 60 will fight him. And even though I think that's a crock of ****. Let's pretend its true. If nobody at 60 will fight him. Yet he's determined to stay at 60. That's sounds like an excellent excuse to fight ****ty competition. Especially when you've said you'll fight anybody from 54-68. And especially when you've got a legit opponent at 68 saying "let's get it."

[Pain~Lucy]

ward vs golovkin will be awesome
but I want ward to step up too and fight maybe kovalev or stevenson?

GGG haters: nah uh GGG duckin, he big for middleweight

[Citizen Koba]

So which one is it. Nobody at 60 will fight GGG? Or, GGG still has work to do at 60? I'm confused.

Is this complicated to you? GGG still has work to do at 160 but it's slower than most would prefer 'cos the guys he needs to fight at 160 don't wanna fight for the $s on offer. This ain't an either/or equation.

[AVDB]

I ain't avoiding ****. I been said I wish Ward would move up. But this ain't about Ward, its about GGG. Furthermore, Ward has proven himself. GGG ain't done ****. His d1ckriders love to toss out that nobody at 60 will fight him. And even though I think that's a crock of ****. Let's pretend its true. If nobody at 60 will fight him. Yet he's determined to stay at 60. That's sounds like an excellent excuse to fight ****ty competition. Especially when you've said you'll fight anybody from 54-68. And especially when you've got a legit opponent at 68 saying "let's get it."

You're right about GGG fighting ****ty competition and you're right when you say it looks bad not moving up especially when he's said anyone from 154-168 can get it. I didn't want the Adama fight and was disappointed when I heard it announced. I wanted Geale, Sturm or Murray. But you can't pretend these guys want to fight with him. Geale is already making excuses for April and Murray don't want any of it, even so far as to remove himself from his under cards. Good news is that. Golovkin fights four times a year and my prediction is that by this time next year, early 2015, GGG will have added more names to the Goodboy list and maybe get the unification fights he's after.

However, it's equally annoying that Ward talks about possibly becoming a heavyweight champ and yet he fights so damn infrequently. GGG fights four times a year and Andre, twice if he's lucky. That alone should put Golovkin on a faster track to super stardom. And yes, Ward has proven himself at Super middle but at the rate he's going, and unless Adonis or Sergei move down, that's where it ends.

In my opinion, GGG beats everyone 168 lbs and under not named Ward. He's a future superstar with a long hitlist and losing to Ward this soon would ruin it. If Andre can take his sweet time moving up, why can't Golovkin? It seems to me that GGG's options are avoiding him but Andre Ward's options are being avoided by Andre Ward.

[hitking]

Is this complicated to you? GGG still has work to do at 160 but it's slower than most would prefer 'cos the guys he needs to fight at 160 don't wanna fight for the $s on offer. This ain't an either/or equation.

Like I said, sounds like an awesome excuse to fight ****ty comp. Which BTW his d1ckriders will love because they get to see KOs and brag about how great he is. But hey, he's been getting his d1ck slurped for eight f.uckin' years and ain't fought nobody yet. So I guess if it ain't broke don't fix it.

[hitking]

You're right about GGG fighting ****ty competition and you're right when you say it looks bad not moving up especially when he's said anyone from 154-168 can get it. I didn't want the Adama fight and was disappointed when I heard it announced. I wanted Geale, Sturm or Murray. But you can't pretend these guys want to fight with him. Geale is already making excuses for April and Murray don't want any of it, even so far as to remove himself from his under cards. Good news is that. Golovkin fights four times a year and my prediction is that by this time next year, early 2015, GGG will have added more names to the Goodboy list and maybe get the unification fights he's after.

However, it's equally annoying that Ward talks about possibly becoming a heavyweight champ and yet he fights so damn infrequently. GGG fights four times a year and Andre, twice if he's lucky. That alone should put Golovkin on a faster track to super stardom. And yes, Ward has proven himself at Super middle but at the rate he's going, and unless Adonis or Sergei move down, that's where it ends.

In my opinion, GGG beats everyone 168 lbs and under not named Ward. He's a future superstar with a long hitlist and losing to Ward this soon would ruin it. If Andre can take his sweet time moving up, why can't Golovkin? It seems to me that GGG's options are avoiding him but Andre Ward's options are being avoided by Andre Ward.

What you either fail to, or neglect to realize is that GGG is older than Ward. They competed and medaled in the exact same 2004 Olympic Games. And they been pros damn near the same amount of time. And while Ward has dominated and cleaned out a division. GGG's **** looks like something that was built at local bars on Toughman night. So please, let's not put the frustration level at "their lack of opposition" on the same level. Ward has earned the right to pick his spots. Because he's. Proven himself at the highest level of the spot. GGG doesn't get that pass.a lotta GGG supporters love to act as if this cat is 21yrs old and fresh outta the amateurs. So the same "frustration" you have for Ward "avoiding" options at higher weights has to be multiplied by 100 when concerning GGG doing the same.

[AVDB]

What you either fail to, or neglect to realize is that GGG is older than Ward. They competed and medaled in the exact same 2004 Olympic Games. And they been pros damn near the same amount of time. And while Ward has dominated and cleaned out a division. GGG's **** looks like something that was built at local bars on Toughman night. So please, let's not put the frustration level at "their lack of opposition" on the same level. Ward has earned the right to pick his spots. Because he's. Proven himself at the highest level of the spot. GGG doesn't get that pass.a lotta GGG supporters love to act as if this cat is 21yrs old and fresh outta the amateurs. So the same "frustration" you have for Ward "avoiding" options at higher weights has to be multiplied by 100 when concerning GGG doing the same.

Boxing has a plethora of styles and I understand that he isn't a defensive wizard or slick fighter that relies on fighting on the back foot but wow, at such an ignorant statement! GGG is blasting his opponents out of the water and just because he isn't outpointing his opponents with UDs and getting KOs, you look down at him? Face-first brawlers you call them right? Just so you know, boxing needs its offensive fighters just as much as it's "technical wizards" like Ward. It's a personal choice and I find Ward's style quite displeasing to watch. I respect it's effectiveness however.

Yea, GGG needs to hurry it up. That's why I made it a point to emphasize GGG's fight frequency. He's after unification and wants Sergio. He wants Geale. He's forced to wait. He's going to catch up if Ward keeps chasing JCC jr. and the like only fighting once or twice a year as if he's making Mayweather PPV money. Ward is way more frustrating because, what's stopping him? Stevenson and Kovalev spark that as$, that's what