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  • hitking
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    #51
    Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
    Rigo is a counter-punching tactician, who somehow manages to not be very exciting. GGG is a boxer-puncher with an agressive style and he likes to finish his opponents. Promotional resources only work when there is something marketable to promote.
    Rigo also reduces P4P fighters to six month novices. While GGG kicks the **** outta guys worst than the guys he faced in the amateurs. You left that part out.

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    • Grimgash
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      #52
      Originally posted by artfuL_
      Think of it like this, if Top Rank billed Rigo as the master tactician he is similar in the vain as GGG is this almighty knockout artist (rightly so), it would be somewhat more understandable and maybe draw more fans to his bouts.

      I'm no Rigo apologist but with this his skill and ability, you would think Top Rank will atleast make a worthwhile investment in him before going bust on him. As has been noted by many of our Cuban posters on BS, there is a demand for him to fight in Miami. Like GGG is fighting in Monte Carlo to satisfy his European fans fighting on a prime-time slow (all down to K2 mind you), Top Rank can try and throw Rigo towards areas where he is at the very least capable of drawing fans.

      Point of my original post is this is how you build international fighters. Have them fight frequently and across the globe is a handy bonus.
      Casuals don't like technicians without flair to their personality. Also a lot of casuals are nationalistic, he's not mexican or rican so thats gone. He has a 550k minimum for fights, Arums fault but how are they going to pay that. Even if it was in Miami the site gets the money, not HBO so that wouldn't help get him air time. There's so many issues that've all been discussed....Rigo without changing his persona or blowing out weaker opponents and being offensive....is not going to sell...point blank.

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      • Citizen Koba
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        #53
        Originally posted by hougigo
        Also, you spelled camps wrong... you put caps
        Clearly my OCD is a little worse than yours Hougigo - both the spelling and factual errors in the article have me twitching - dammit- more wine waiter!

        Nonetheless not a terrible overview of GGGs recent career for the unacquainted (who it's obviously aimed at).
        Last edited by Citizen Koba; 01-29-2014, 07:57 PM.

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        • bojangles1987
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          #54
          I really can't understand why people blame Golovkin for the fighters who turn him down. It really boggles my mind.

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          • US Dirk Killer
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            #55
            Originally posted by bojangles1987
            I really can't understand why people blame Golovkin for the fighters who turn him down. It really boggles my mind.
            Because then they'd have nothing to be mad about. Geale turns down a fight in Feb, it's Golovkin's fault. Murray refuses to fight, it's Golovkins fault

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            • Citizen Koba
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              #56
              Originally posted by artfuL_
              Think of it like this, if Top Rank billed Rigo as the master tactician he is similar in the vain as GGG is this almighty knockout artist (rightly so), it would be somewhat more understandable and maybe draw more fans to his bouts.

              I'm no Rigo apologist but with this his skill and ability, you would think Top Rank will atleast make a worthwhile investment in him before going bust on him. As has been noted by many of our Cuban posters on BS, there is a demand for him to fight in Miami. Like GGG is fighting in Monte Carlo to satisfy his European fans fighting on a prime-time slow (all down to K2 mind you), Top Rank can try and throw Rigo towards areas where he is at the very least capable of drawing fans.

              Point of my original post is this is how you build international fighters. Have them fight frequently and across the globe is a handy bonus.
              This I do substantially agreee with...people buy what they're sold (at last to an extent) - to me Rigo is a f#kkin artist - there has to be a way of selling him (something along the lines of convincing the viewing public that they're amongst the boxing cognescenti if they watch his fights) - for TR to just go 'meh - too much effort' with one of the greatest talents on the planet seems to me foolish as well as ignorant (although, to be fair, my business acumen may be reasonably questioned as I don't have the funds to replace my desktop PC that was fried by the kids on Saturday and am now logging in on my daughters geriatric laptop).

              Nonetheless, TRs failure to promote Rigo correctly should take nothing from K2 or from Sanchez' development of GGG as a KO artist, iin the current market what Golovkin has is what sells - the only adventure that's being taken is putting money behind a fighter without any substantial ethnic following, and damn, HBOs being coy enough about that.
              Last edited by Citizen Koba; 01-29-2014, 07:05 PM.

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              • hitking
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                #57
                Originally posted by bojangles1987
                I really can't understand why people blame Golovkin for the fighters who turn him down. It really boggles my mind.
                Last I checked, GGG isn't a heavyweight. Therefore if nobody at 60 wants to fight him, he needs to go elsewhere. And since he's supposedly made arguably the best light heavyweight in the world quit in sparring. KOs heavyweights in the gym wearing 1000oz gloves. And is willing to fight anyone from 54-68. There's really no excuse for him fighting the tomato cans his resume is littered with. Some guy named Ward said he's ready for the great GGG. What the problem is???

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                • AVDB
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by hitking
                  Last I checked, GGG isn't a heavyweight. Therefore if nobody at 60 wants to fight him, he needs to go elsewhere. And since he's supposedly made arguably the best light heavyweight in the world quit in sparring. KOs heavyweights in the gym wearing 1000oz gloves. And is willing to fight anyone from 54-68. There's really no excuse for him fighting the tomato cans his resume is littered with. Some guy named Ward said he's ready for the great GGG. What the problem is???
                  GGG still has work to do at 160. What's Ward's excuse for not moving to light heavy?

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                  • hitking
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by soul_survivor
                    Why is Ward looking to fight middleweights, why hasn't he challenged a bigger star in Stevenson or a bigger, harder puncher in Kovalev?

                    Oh Ward, what a hero
                    Yet you'd bust a nut big enough to cover NYC if GGG said in an interview, "you p.ussy Floyd Mayweather quit being a b1tch and fight me."

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                    • hitking
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by AVDB
                      GGG still has work to do at 160. What's Ward's excuse for not moving to light heavy?
                      So which one is it. Nobody at 60 will fight GGG? Or, GGG still has work to do at 60? I'm confused.

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