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Originally posted by Foreign Soil View PostPut Mayweather and GSP on neutral grounds and have them compete in different events. You'd have to be a ****** to pick Floyd in some head-to-head competitions. You're only embarrassing yourself with "Floyd is wayyyy better" comments.
Originally posted by Foreign Soil View PostHe's not schooling anything, but I am entertained at how serious you're taking the discussion.
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Originally posted by Syf View Postridiculous. Martial application is martial application. Guys in boxing specialize in just punching, thus making them generally more efficient and destructive overall with punches than any mma fighter. The great ko artists of boxing would look like murderers in the octagon, due to those gloves. This cannot be stressed enough. The concussive force and added piercing power afforded by those gloves would magnify a 1 punch ko artist's already devastating punching power to maiming and even lethal levels.
Mma guys largely overspecialize, thus diluting their overall focus and artistry. A jack of all trades is a master of none.
According to what? Fatass shot ass James Toney? What prime boxing champion has tried his hand at mma? None. Why? Well its gonna stay that way there is simply more money for the fighters in boxing than in UFC. Dana White fleeces his fighters. That's why boxers don't go over to mma and disgrace the name of the discipline until they are washed up, castoffs, or broke ass retirees.
Umm. Mma is at most what.... 3 5 minute rounds? There are boxers that train to throw over 1000 punches in 12 rounds.. so lets say in 46 minutes thats 1000.. thats roughly 333 punches thrown in 15 minutes. Point me to an mma fighter capable of throwing 333 good punches over 3 5 minute rounds. While your at it link me footage of the match. Ill be generous.. kicks can count too. So 333 strikes.
Needless to say, it can be easily argued the best boxers also have better conditioning.
its not about Mayweather's athleticism completely. It his artistry.. his mentality. Simply put, he's a martial prodigy. He would excel at any martial discipline much like Bruce Lee did, another martial prodigy.
Where Bruce mislead people is his method of diluting disciplines only truly works for martial prodigies like him. Everyone else should pick a specialization, and strive to perfect it.
Many MMA fighters do come from different backgrounds from what they once specialized in. Wrestling, jiu jitsu, kick-boxing, judo. The trick is taking the skills you have and making them useful for MMA, otherwise you're toast.
MMA and boxing conditioning are somewhat different. Grappling conditioning is different from boxing and can be grueling if it's nonstop grappling. MMA fighters do boxing as part of their training - a few boxers do wrestling as theirs. It's different but just as hard. Nick Diaz competes in triathlons - he could throw punches for days.
Agree partly about Mayweather, which was my point about him not being the greatest athlete in boxing but a great tactical mindset, and I can see him being good at other combat sports but certainly not all of them, especially with his brittle hands - he couldn't even compete in MMA.
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Originally posted by A-Wolf View PostFloyd is a better athlete, idiot. That's been the line of discussion. You having trouble keeping up here??
Says who? Says you, moron? You're "entertained" an objective thinker is calling the situation accurately and you, a moronic MMA fan, clearly biased, and blindly propagandizing is talking out of his ass? Interesting.
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UFC stinks, but GSP is the better athlete. The man didn't even wrestle until he fought MMA and became probably the most dominant in the history of the sport at the discipline. Explosive athleticism from the pasty Canadian. Give him his just dues.Last edited by dirty fingers; 01-29-2014, 03:43 PM.
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Originally posted by Foreign Soil View PostBoxers wouldn't necessarily be "murderers" in MMA gloves - Floyd would break his hand on the first punch. It should be widely known that boxing gloves allow you to punch harder because it protects the hands better.
Many MMA fighters do come from different backgrounds from what they once specialized in. Wrestling, jiu jitsu, kick-boxing, judo. The trick is taking the skills you have and making them useful for MMA, otherwise you're toast.
MMA and boxing conditioning are somewhat different. Grappling conditioning is different from boxing and can be grueling if it's nonstop grappling. MMA fighters do boxing as part of their training - a few boxers do wrestling as theirs. It's different but just as hard. Nick Diaz competes in triathlons - he could throw punches for days.
Agree partly about Mayweather, which was my point about him not being the greatest athlete in boxing but a great tactical mindset, and I can see him being good at other combat sports but certainly not all of them, especially with his brittle hands - he couldn't even compete in MMA.
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Originally posted by sakura storm View PostUFC stinks, but GSP is the better athlete. The man didn't even wrestle until he fought MMA and became probably the most dominant in the history of the sport at the discipline. Explosive athleticism from the pasty Canadian. Give him his just dues.
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