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  • pugilistprophet1994
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    #81
    Kirkland has NO chin, he would get hurt badly by GGG. Many of you seem to forget that GGG has quite the amateur resume. You can't do that unless you have some boxing skills. I think Golovkin is more well rounded than some of you think.

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      #82
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
      It's not really because because Floyd comes to the ring at 150, 3 lbs north of 147.

      Golovkin at 168 he'd be 3 lbs north at 170.
      I haven't read anything about his fight night weight but according to Sanchez Golovkin enters camp at 167lbs.

      Can't really say because Golovkin won't move up it seems at least for now but it's not like Mayweather at 154.
      I don't see him faring well at 168, do you?

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        #83
        Originally posted by Weebler I
        I haven't read anything about his fight night weight but according to Sanchez Golovkin enters camp at 167lbs.



        I don't see him faring well at 168, do you?
        I think he'll be alright as long as he doesn't fight Ward.

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          #84
          Originally posted by fokas
          As i recall Golovkin fought at 164 in the amateurs, so don't think 168 would be too much of a problem. Going down would be more difficult for him IMO.
          Thats 164 fight night. Thats small for super welter in the pros

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            #85
            Originally posted by ElMeroChingon
            I actually would love to see GGG vs Kirkland, he's the only who was able to go toe to toe with angulo and win. His has the will, always dangerous, but he's too sloppy, and gets hit cleanly too easily by decent fighters.

            What i want to see in this fight is how well GGG would take a shot from a puncher like Kirkland.
            This is kinda curious to me - there seems to actually be reasonable interest in Golovkin vs Kirkland (certainly going by this thread). Many people have suggested that Kirkland is just another JMW and a bit of a joke opponent for Golovkin.

            IMO Kirkland is not an easy opponent for anyone, and whilst Geale is absolutely the fight that HBO should be trying to make for GGG, the Kirkland fight is interesting.

            The Mandingo warrior is an engine of destruction (although frequently vulnerable early) - any fighter who lacks the ability to finish him early could potentially struggle. Kirklands conditioning and stamina are almost unbelievabl (with Wolfe) but....the kid ain't much of a boxer.

            The Molina fight is the most educational in this regard - to be blunt Kirkland had his ass served - problem was Molina can't punch. IDK if Golovkin can fight backfoot, TBH I suspect he fights backfoot just fine, but his choice is frontfoot and he has the skills and physical presence to dictate his choice in almost any fight I see happening (certainly at 160).

            Kirkland vs GGG is for me an interesting fight in terms of a physical matchup, but a mis-match in terms of skill, Kirkland has no jab, Golovkin is (per compubox - sorry) the most effective jabber in the sport - Kirkland ain't even fast or that big of a puncher (a la Stevens) - he wins through volume and workrate - that ain't gonna help him 'gainst a guy who can jab his ass off all night then create the openings.

            How is kirkland supposed to win this? I'm genuinely intrested 'cos I just don't see it - if boxing were like a butting contest between prize rams then, yeah, Kirklands your guy, but it ain't. Kirkland can't back GGG up, not cos he ain't physically strong enough, but because he's gonna be eating heavy leather all the time, facing an opponent who's landing but not letting him land.

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              #86
              Originally posted by Weebler I
              I haven't read anything about his fight night weight but according to Sanchez Golovkin enters camp at 167lbs.



              I don't see him faring well at 168, do you?
              Golovkin fights at about 168-170 at MW, maybe he'd throw on a few extra lbs at SMW but I doubt it'd be that much if he wants to retain his fighting style. However Froch fights (and walks) at 172-3 (I've heard Kessler also fights quite light for a SMW but ain't seen the numbers) so that kinda weight doesn't preclude success by any means.

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                #87
                Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
                Golovkin fights at about 168-170 at MW, maybe he'd throw on a few extra lbs at SMW but I doubt it'd be that much if he wants to retain his fighting style. However Froch fights (and walks) at 172-3 (I've heard Kessler also fights quite light for a SMW but ain't seen the numbers) so that kinda weight doesn't preclude success by any means.
                I see the likes of Kessler taking his shots and coming thundering back with heavy combinations of his own. Bika would maul and clinch him, ditto Ward. As a smaller man, it would be much more difficult for Golovkin at that weight, war after war.

                He could maybe beat Froch because his defence is poor, and Groves because his chin isn't the best but that division is a tough ask for him, something he doesn't need to do.

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                • BoxingGenius27
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Mooshashi
                  While ur on boxrec check out John "the beaast" Mugabi's record before the Hagler fight.
                  I'm not sure how I missed this; I didn't see this post before. Great point!

                  Goes to show what happens when you bully the bully...

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                  • Daddy T
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
                    Stevens had him going backwards in the 4th and GGG looked terrible. He got caught with several good shots. The next round, for some reason, Stevens began to back up again.

                    I think if GGG fights a guy that will back him up and pressure him, I don't see it playing to well for GGG for I'm almost certain he loses.
                    he's better going forwards alright ... but it's like saying hey you know how to beat tyson? back him up! easy!

                    It's not as easy as just walking forwards and 'making' him back up. Stevens didn't keep doing it because he simply couldn't.

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                    • sugarsmosley
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
                      I'm not sure how I missed this; I didn't see this post before. Great point!

                      Goes to show what happens when you bully the bully...
                      you missed it because boxingscene doesn't have quote or reply notifications

                      come on NSB it's 2014!!!

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