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  • Sugar Adam Ali
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    #51
    Originally posted by Truth.
    In no particular order, I think Pac, Ward, Rigo, Martinez, Floyd, Lara, Kovalev, GGG, M.Garcia, Gamboa, Thurman, Crawford and quite a few others are better than Bradley and D.Garcia.

    Based on ability alone, as some of those guys haven't got any big wins on their resumes. I know it won't go down too well with a lot of people, but it's just what I think.
    fair enough,,, but gamboa hasnt had a quality win in years, and crawford, kovolev and ggg i really like, they just dont have the career wins for me to put them on yet,,They are in my honorable mention category

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    • boliodogs
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      #52
      I voted yes. He wins over Khan and Matthysse combined with his good, undefeated record and the ability, power, stamina, work rate, toughness and determination he shows me put him in my top 10 pfp. I don't like him or his loud mouthed disrespectful dad but he is a very good fighter.

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      • John Locke
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        #53
        Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
        fair enough,,, but gamboa hasnt had a quality win in years, and crawford, kovolev and ggg i really like, they just dont have the career wins for me to put them on yet,,They are in my honorable mention category
        I agree that Gamboa hasn't looked good in a while, but I think that's more down to what's been going on with him outside of the ring. He's a special talent. He needs to sort himself out ASAP though.

        And again, I agree about Crawford, Kovalev and GGG not having any outstanding wins on their resume, but like I said I'm going by talent/skillset rather than resume. I think they'll prove that they're better fighters than Bradley and D.Garcia soon enough.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Truth.
          I agree that Gamboa hasn't looked good in a while, but I think that's more down to what's been going on with him outside of the ring. He's a special talent. He needs to sort himself out ASAP though.

          And again, I agree about Crawford, Kovalev and GGG not having any outstanding wins on their resume, but like I said I'm going by talent rather than resume. I think they'll prove that they're better fighters than Bradley and D.Garcia soon enough.
          Crawford IMO will be a top 5 guy by 2015,,,, the rickey burns fight will be his coming out party, and a star will be born, Crawford going to UK and gonna stop Burns,, mark it down

          GGG needs a serg or murray win to enter my p4p rankings

          Kovolev needs the stevenson fight

          All of those fights should be attainable in 2014

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          • John Locke
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            #55
            Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
            Crawford IMO will be a top 5 guy by 2015,,,, the rickey burns fight will be his coming out party, and a star will be born, Crawford going to UK and gonna stop Burns,, mark it down

            GGG needs a serg or murray win to enter my p4p rankings

            Kovolev needs the stevenson fight

            All of those fights should be attainable in 2014
            Yep, Crawford is outstanding. I'd pick him to beat anyone in and around his weight class easily.

            GGG is being ducked left, right and centre. I think at least one of the better MWs will man up and fight him this year though.

            Kovalev wants the Stevenson fight but Stevenson doesn't seem too keen on it. I think we'll see that one sometime this year or early next year.

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              #56
              1.floyd
              2.ward
              3&4(interchangeable). rigo & bradley
              5. klitchko

              After the first five, it's harder to argue (all are interchangeable)

              6.pacquiao
              7.mikey
              8.adonis/kovalev
              9.sergio/ggg
              10.danny

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              • Mike D
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                #57
                I don't know. He's close but I don't know if he's quite there yet. Another nice win or two and I think he could safely be added.

                But I don't know if wins over a couple of shot dead fighters (Morales twice, Judah), Paulie, Khan, and Matthysse are enough to put you into the top ten of the world. I mean they're nice wins, don't get me wrong, but top ten worthy resume wins? No.

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                • Box-Office
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Truth.
                  In no particular order, I think Pac, Ward, Rigo, Martinez, Floyd, Lara, Kovalev, GGG, M.Garcia, Gamboa, Thurman, Crawford and quite a few others are better than Bradley and D.Garcia.

                  Based on ability alone, as some of those guys haven't got any big wins on their resumes. I know it won't go down too well with a lot of people, but it's just what I think.
                  You have Keith Thurman and Crawford in ur p4p top 10. Guys who havent even won a full version of a major belt let alone beat a major opponent. Thurman no doubt if he keeps up will get there. Crawford not so sure as hes never even fought a 12 rounder yet.

                  Garcia is lineal champ in one of the most and always competitive 140lbs and its been a while since anyone held that belt at 140 lbs. Judah, Khan and Matthysse are solid wins. Matthysse is not a hype job as its highly annoying how ppl rip someone after one loss. He fell in love with his power cuz he thought Garcia was shook, otherwise he did KO mr slick boxer Lamont Peterson so not a hype job is he?

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                  • John Locke
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Box-Office
                    You have Keith Thurman and Crawford in ur p4p top 10. Guys who havent even won a full version of a major belt let alone beat a major opponent. Thurman no doubt if he keeps up will get there. Crawford not so sure as hes never even fought a 12 rounder yet.

                    Garcia is lineal champ in one of the most and always competitive 140lbs and its been a while since anyone held that belt at 140 lbs. Judah, Khan and Matthysse are solid wins. Matthysse is not a hype job as its highly annoying how ppl rip someone after one loss. He fell in love with his power cuz he thought Garcia was shook, otherwise he did KO mr slick boxer Lamont Peterson so not a hype job is he?
                    Firstly, I think you should re-read my posts.

                    I said my opinion is based on ability/skillset rather than achievements. Soon enough, I believe Thurman and Crawford will have achieved more than D.Garcia.

                    And I like Matthysse, he's not a hype-job, what I'm saying is people were saying he's a hype-job before the fight and after the fight, the very same people were acting like Matthysse is Godzilla. Also the circumstances in which D.Garcia won that fight was somewhat fortunate.
                    Last edited by John Locke; 01-26-2014, 06:43 PM.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by AVDB
                      1.floyd
                      2.ward
                      3&4(interchangeable). rigo & bradley
                      5. klitchko

                      After the first five, it's harder to argue (all are interchangeable)

                      6.pacquiao
                      7.mikey
                      8.adonis/kovalev
                      9.sergio/ggg
                      10.danny

                      Mikey number 7? Sorry but no.

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