Danny "Swift" Garcia P4P Top 10?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Garcia isnt quite at the level of top 5 p4p but he most certainly should be ranked somewhere 8-10

I think he has done alittle more than GGG, Kovolev, stevenson, and a whole lot more than guys like lucas, canelo, etc

[Box-Office]

Garcia isnt quite at the level of top 5 p4p but he most certainly should be ranked somewhere 8-10

I think he has done alittle more than GGG, Kovolev, stevenson, and a whole lot more than guys like lucas, canelo, etc

I agree i shouldve been more specific that Top 10 p4p from the bottom 3.

[Box-Office]

Yeah he's clearly the best guy in his division and along with Ward, Stevenson and Wlad holds that rare distinction.

Garcia has beaten the number one guy in his division (Khan) and the most feared guy (Matthysse) and done so very well both times, fights in which he was a big underdog.

Something else which people fail to understand about the p4p list, can the guy being mentioned beat other top fighters in the sport irregardless of weight? I think Garcia beats everyone at 140 and has a good run at 147 against guys like Broner/Madiana/Khan/Alexander/Porter/Brook, posisbly beats them all. P4P, he can beat a large chunk of talent higher than 147 too.

Garcia is most definitely a top 10 p4p guy.

I shouldve been more specific and said top p4p from bottom 3. That wouldve been more appropriate. I mean Canelo made it how the hell does one explain that? Garcia beat Holt as a learning fight, Judah, Khan and Matthysse. Thats more legit opponents than Canelo. I dont count Morales for obv reasons, but even he was a bigger threat than Mosley, Baldomir and Ndou lol.

[John Locke]

D.Garcia top 10 P4P? No chance.

Along with Bradley, he's the most overrated fighter out there atm.

His best win was against Matthysse, who was being dubbed an overrated hype-job before the fight. After the fight, people were acting like D.Garcia had beaten a prime Pacquiao. I like Matthysse and think it was a great win for D.Garcia, but let's be honest, he got some help from the referee that night and Matthysse's badly swollen eye also gave him a hand.

His second best win was against Khan, who was absolutely embarrassing him before his chin, which will all know is a bit suspect, let him down.

D.Garcia is a solid fighter with good physical qualities, but he's not a naturally gifted boxer. He needs to work on his head movement and footwork, he's too flat-footed. He'll never be an elite fighter imo.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

]D.Garcia top 10 P4P? No chance.

Along with Bradley, he's the most overrated fighter out there atm.
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His best win was against Matthysse, who was being dubbed an overrated hype-job before the fight. After the fight, people were acting like D.Garcia had beaten a prime Pacquiao. I like Matthysse and think it was a great win for D.Garcia, but let's be honest, he got some help from the referee that night and Matthysse's badly swollen eye also gave him a hand.

His second best win was against Khan, who was absolutely embarrassing him before his chin, which will all know is a bit suspect, let him down.

D.Garcia is a solid fighter with good physical qualities, but he's not a naturally gifted boxer. He needs to work on his head movement and footwork, he's too flat-footed. He'll never be an elite fighter imo.

If you dont think they are p4p, thats fine,,, but at least post your p4p list,, I would like to see the 10 guys that are p4p better and have accomplished more than tim and danny

[jas]

If you dont think they are p4p, thats fine,,, but at least post your p4p list,, I would like to see the 10 guys that are p4p better and have accomplished more than tim and danny

You beat me to the question.

[BIG GUNZ]

He'd probably be at number 9 or 10 on my list since Floyd, Manny, Marquez, Ward, Bradley, Rigondeaux, Wlad, & Martinez are all above him. Not really sure who else would be above Garcia at the moment

[Sugar Adam Ali]

He'd probably be at number 9 or 10 on my list since Floyd, Manny, Marquez, Ward, Bradley, Rigondeaux, Wlad, & Martinez are all above him. Not really sure who else would be above Garcia at the moment

Thats pretty solid, though i disagree about martinez,, i think he is done, and age has caught up to him,, he has been off my list since the murray gift win

[BIG GUNZ]

Thats pretty solid, though i disagree about martinez,, i think he is done, and age has caught up to him,, he has been off my list since the murray gift win

Can't really argue with you about Martinez, but due to all his accomplishments in recent years I'd still keep him at #8 at the current time until he fights again. If he loses or gives a mediocre performance in his next fight than I'd take him off. But if he beats Cotto decisively than he'd stay in the bottom of my top 10.

1. Floyd
2. Ward
3. Bradley
4. Rigondeaux
5. Wlad
6. Marquez
7. Pacquiao
8. Martinez
9. Garcia
10. Stevenson/Kovalev - tied at #10 until they fight or if one loses before they fight

Than right below that I'd have Hopkins, GGG, Mikey Garcia, Canelo, Froch

[John Locke]

If you dont think they are p4p, thats fine,,, but at least post your p4p list,, I would like to see the 10 guys that are p4p better and have accomplished more than tim and danny

In no particular order, I think Pac, Ward, Rigo, Martinez, Floyd, Lara, Kovalev, GGG, M.Garcia, Gamboa, Thurman, Crawford and quite a few others are better than Bradley and D.Garcia.

Based on ability alone, as some of those guys haven't got any big wins on their resumes. I know it won't go down too well with a lot of people, but it's just what I think.