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Either extreme is bad; but if I had to choose one, I lean towards one-punch power. One can learn good defense to compensate for a weak chin; but if you're feather-fisted, there's very little that can be done. A granite-chinned fighter will eat shots that'll eventually scramble his brains, and he'll often lose fights on points. A china-chinned fighter's career will end soon enough if he doesn't learn good defense.
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Well is it either I have a granite chin or no chin? Or KO power or I'm feather-fisted?
Probably power. I'd like to avoid getting hit in the head as much as possible. But I sure as hell don't want a Khan jaw.
Don't know why I didn't see the full poll options. I wouldn't want KO power with a glass jaw. Gimme the chin I guess. Make me a Malignaggi I suppose.Last edited by samouraï; 01-23-2014, 10:35 AM.Comment
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Damn, dude, you were right on it! I only read the thread title, but noticed that stipulation in the poll after posting and edited like thirty seconds later. lol
Anyway, your last statement is rather presumptuous. I've watched plenty of boxing in my forty-eight years on this planet. Like I said, either extreme is bad. I've seen examples of either attribute succeeding and failing. Let's take Thomas Hearns, for example. Although not exactly glass-chinned, he certainly wasn't known for his beard. He lost to Hagler in a short fight, but annihilated the legendary chin of Duran in just as short a fight.
Whichever is ultimately better for ones W-L record, I'd rather leave the sport with my mental faculties intact. It's a personal preference. If I fail with my power, at least I can live a healthy post-boxing life. Kid Gavilan is a classic example of a granite-chinned fighter with relatively little power. He suffered a similar fate to Ali and many other granite-chinned boxers.Comment
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Well, if I had granite chin what type of power would I have? Paulie type power or decent/average power?
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Power. Imagine being able to ice a sucker in one shot.Comment
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If you literally mean ONE PUNCH KO power, you only have to land one good punch. It'd be incredibly fun to have that ability. I'd rather have short, fast, action-packed fights than be forced to grind out long, slow 12-rounders every time. It's also the 12 rounders that do the most damage to fighters. No thanks!Comment
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for starters, i never implied that you didn't watch enough boxing, only that people who read the poll and didn't take the chin didn't watch enough boxing. i thought it was clear that you didn't read the poll [stipulating that the puncher had a glass jaw,] which would effect your answer.
some clarifications:
kid gavilan was nowhere near a feather fister. many of his opponents, including robinson, are on record saying that they respected his power. he got great leverage with his punches. he fought in a great WW era, with durable opponents/contenders in and around the new york area.
and hearns had a good chin. it wasn't great, but it certainly wasn't glass when compared to his contemporaries. hearns' lack of durability is largely a myth that stems from the hagler and first leonard fights, where he ended up rocking around the ring in knockout losses. in reality, he was fighting the best welterweight since ray robinson at the height of his powers, and marvin hagler. both hagler and leonard were very good punchers. hearns didn't box like a guy protecting a bad chin, and that's because he wasn't.
there are very few great fighters with glass jaws. there are plenty of great fighters without great power, and even a good amount of great featherfisters. many of the great fighters had great chins. fewer had one punch knockout power, especially in the weight classes.
when you're boxing at the top, you're going to get hit. nothing about having great power mandates that an opponent won't hit you.Comment
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pardon me for looking at a thread on a boxing site in a boxing context.
the TS was talking about street fights?
unless you're a tiny little dude, you can stretch somebody if you hit them in the right spot and when they're moving in the right direction.
if you're looking to have a successful boxing career, you're better off with a great chin and little power than a big punch and a bad chin.
why do you guys always assume that the guy with a good chin is going to be taking punches? we never said the hard hitter was faster, a better boxer, etc. we only said that he has a huge punch and no chin.Comment
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