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If Lara can not get the fights he wants at 154, why not move to 160?

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  • Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
    He's beaten every southpaw he's faced.
    has he faced pac, martinez, or lara?

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    • Originally posted by !! Shawn View Post
      I know you proclaim to be a boxing fan, so let me explain something to you. Boxing is based on weight classes. Fighters have weigh-ins, where they are weighted to make sure that they meet the weight class requirements.

      Floyd Mayweather is a Champion at 154lb, which is the Junior Middleweight Division.

      Danny Garcia is a Champion at 140lb, which is the Junior Welterweight division.

      Erislandy Lara is a Champion at 154lb, which is the Junior Middleweight division.

      Ideally in boxing Champions seek to unify their divisions and become the undisputed champion. Reasonably, many fans are suggesting a bout between Floyd Mayweather Jr, a 154lb champion, and Erislandy Lara, another 154lb champion.
      But Mayweather and Garcia are closer in size as opposed to Mayweather and Lara.

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      • Originally posted by Spray_resistant View Post
        He already has and been successful against some guys which is why he IS the lineal 154lb champion right now. This is the weight class he is the champion of and there are fighters who would like to challenge him but other fighters there seems to be a problem with him fighting and to excuse him not doing so people claim they are too big when really they are bigger and too good maybe?
        isn't he lineal champ at 152?

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        • Originally posted by !! Shawn View Post
          If you really wanted to see the fight, and thought it was the best fight ot be made, you wouldn't be spending so much time arguing reasons why FLoyd shouldn't fight Lara.

          Lara isn't in his first weight class btw... His amateur career was fought at 141lb and 147lb...

          Floyd had filled out to 147 by age 30, Lara has filled out to 154 by age 30. Stop pretending all these fighters haven't grown with age.

          GGG wasn't spat out of the womb weighing 160lb. Most of Floyds moving up in weight happened before he was 26. He has bounced between 147 and 154 for all of his 30s. Stop pretending that Lara and GGG are jokes for turning pro later in their career when they had already filled out physically.

          If Floyd turned pro in his late 20's, he would have started at 147.
          dude, Floyd moved up in weight to chase big money fights just like I said Lara would do if it presented himself. Floyd at 135 came into the ring at 138 pounds. He stayed there a couple of fights and went to 140. At 140 he came into the ring at 143-144 pounds. He stayed a couple of fights and went to WW. At WW he came into the ring at 146-148 pounds. He stayed a couple of fights and went to 154 for Oscar.

          You think Floyd filled out and kept moving up? His body was like a little boy and he was the smallest guy in every division after 130. He moved up to chase the big money fights which were all at the higher weights. He wasnt physically ready to move up so dont try to compare him to those guys

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          • Originally posted by !! Shawn View Post
            I know you proclaim to be a boxing fan, so let me explain something to you. Boxing is based on weight classes. Fighters have weigh-ins, where they are weighted to make sure that they meet the weight class requirements.

            Floyd Mayweather is a Champion at 154lb, which is the Junior Middleweight Division.

            Danny Garcia is a Champion at 140lb, which is the Junior Welterweight division.

            Erislandy Lara is a Champion at 154lb, which is the Junior Middleweight division.

            Ideally in boxing Champions seek to unify their divisions and become the undisputed champion. Reasonably, many fans are suggesting a bout between Floyd Mayweather Jr, a 154lb champion, and Erislandy Lara, another 154lb champion.
            you can request it all you want. You can even call for Floyd to be stripped. My problem is with someone suggesting he's a coward for choosing to fight someone closer to his own size instead. Again, he is also the WW champ so if he chooses to fight there against guys closer to his size then thats fine also

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            • Originally posted by Beercules View Post
              Oh...

              So Floyd the JMW super duper champ can't fight an actual JMW?


              Let me guess Angulo and Trout are too big for JMW also. They rehydrate to 170+
              Well TBE "The Beefcake Employers" stans claimed Canelo was a cruiserweight so I wouldnt put it past them

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              • Originally posted by Spray_resistant View Post
                This old tired poor Floyd doesn't get any credit song again huh? He is the best fighter who has recently competed in the 154lb weight class so now he shouldn't challenge himself against good opponents who maybe bigger than him which he has done before because some people will discredit him? This is pretty weak Floyd apologist rhetoric to me, its inexcusable for him to fight guys like Khan if that is the route he does and like I said would be nothing more than a money making sideshow for him rather than legitimate sports competition.
                Never once said the khan fight was good. Not once. And u clearly don't understand what I'm saying. He should not be expected to continuously fight guys bigger than him on the hopes that one of these guys beat him. Wtf is that? This is boxing. He's fought at 154 3x now. He's beat 3 fighters at that weight, all world class and all bigger than him. So he should keep doing it until he loses? Do u understand horlw ******ed u sound? As long as hes fighting the best fighters at his weight class, what more can be expected. Khan is not included in that. But are he to fight the lineal 140lb champ that should be a cherry pick rite? ******ism at its best.

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                • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                  But Mayweather and Garcia are closer in size as opposed to Mayweather and Lara.
                  Danny Garcia reach 68 1/2"

                  Floyd Mayweather reach 72"

                  Erislandy Lara reach 75"

                  Reach is historically the biggest predictor in how far up a fighter can successfully move in weight.

                  Floyd is closer in size to Lara than he is to Garcia.

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                  • Originally posted by DLT View Post
                    dude, Floyd moved up in weight to chase big money fights just like I said Lara would do if it presented himself. Floyd at 135 came into the ring at 138 pounds. He stayed there a couple of fights and went to 140. At 140 he came into the ring at 143-144 pounds. He stayed a couple of fights and went to WW. At WW he came into the ring at 146-148 pounds. He stayed a couple of fights and went to 154 for Oscar.

                    You think Floyd filled out and kept moving up? His body was like a little boy and he was the smallest guy in every division after 130. He moved up to chase the big money fights which were all at the higher weights. He wasnt physically ready to move up so dont try to compare him to those guys
                    so it was ok for him to duck everyone good after jlc because he wasn't physically ready? he was only ready to fight big money guys(who ******) but he wasn't ready to fight the real fighters in those divisions? wow this guy sounds so great

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                    • Originally posted by !! Shawn View Post
                      I know you proclaim to be a boxing fan, so let me explain something to you. Boxing is based on weight classes. Fighters have weigh-ins, where they are weighted to make sure that they meet the weight class requirements.

                      Floyd Mayweather is a Champion at 154lb, which is the Junior Middleweight Division.

                      Danny Garcia is a Champion at 140lb, which is the Junior Welterweight division.

                      Erislandy Lara is a Champion at 154lb, which is the Junior Middleweight division.

                      Ideally in boxing Champions seek to unify their divisions and become the undisputed champion. Reasonably, many fans are suggesting a bout between Floyd Mayweather Jr, a 154lb champion, and Erislandy Lara, another 154lb champion.

                      There are weight divisions, but then there is reality. A lot of these guys don't naturally belong in those weight divisions today.

                      The first reality is that most fans are NOT suggesting a bout between Lara and Mayweather. If we are lucky, there maybe is ONE single article suggesting the bout on Boxing Scene alone. A site that publishes tons of stories daily.

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