Glovokin, why does he hit so hard? He's not that heavy or fast?

[Pain~Lucy]

he's a good boy and will make you his good boy

[Box-Office]

Power is something you are born with. You can be the most jacked guy and may have decent KO power yet you may look like Randall Bailey and drop sledge hammers. You can improve accuracy and technique to be more effective but no way in hell you can "become" a puncher. Some ppl i know their jab alone brings tears outta your eyes after being hit on the nose cuz its just that bad. Ppl will say "oh if you commit and come forward you become a puncher" B.S

What you have with Golovkin Stevenson Kovalev and thurman is a gift of God. With Golovkin its more scary as he has 345-5 record so he doesnt get carried away and Kovalev was also a good amateur i heard.

Im not speaking based on what i heard Im speaking from experience having boxed as an amateur and i sparred extensively with some very good amateurs. Thats why i stress to ppl to atleast do some sparring if theyre boxing fans if not fites cuz it makes it so much better when you watch it. Thats why i love watching Richard abril, carlos molina and erislandy Lara cuz i know wats going on.

[ColdBlooded]

Power is not something people are born with. The power of a movement is based on the physical factors that power the movement. If those factors are improved, the power of the movement will be improved. The problem a lot of boxers seem to have is not training power.

[Furn]

Power = Work / Time

I think you are thinking of E = m X (c^2) or
energy = mass X speed of light squared.

I don't know what to say about you're theories, some hit hard and some don't. I don't think Golovkin hits that hard, by the way. I think its more of how they are built, genetics. Valero, Matthyse, Maidana, Golovkin; Let's try to find some common physical features between these guys.

He could be thinking of Force = Acceleration * Mass as force is what you would measure to determine the "power" of a punch.

In GGGs case it would be a combination of technique, balance and just having powerful muscles. Remember muscle size doesn't equal strength.

The muscles in the arms and shoulders are quite small and weak compared to the larger muscles of the back, legs, hips etc. the correct recruitment of these larger muscle groups leads to more force.

It's the same thing when a skinny 16 year old can hit a golf ball 300metres while a huge body builder can barely hit it 200. It's all about technique and balance and being powerful in the right areas.

[Box-Office]

Power is not something people are born with. The power of a movement is based on the physical factors that power the movement. If those factors are improved, the power of the movement will be improved. The problem a lot of boxers seem to have is not training power.

Freakish power like Golovkin and Thurman is something you are born with. You can improve technique and accuracy on pads and be more effective and time well to catch your opponent off guard. But power is not something you are born with cuz how come Timothy Bradley who fites at such an elite level not become a puncher? he ofcourse trains damn hard for guys like provodnikov yet he forgets to improve his power? that is if it can be taught cuz its not or even Paulie Malignaggi.

Just curious have you ever boxed?

[ColdBlooded]

How many boxers do you know of that do power training? Some boxers might be inclined to hit harder, but to suggest power is entirely genetic is kind of silly. Bradley's problem is he slaps with his punches and has terrible balance. Have you seen some of his overhand rights? I remember a sequence in the Pacquiao fight where he flurried with like six punches, and slapped with all of them. As for whether I've boxed, I'm training to and have sparred. I think a good example of somebody who developed power is Marquez. He developed one punch power after working with Heredia.

[ИATAS]

Freakish power like Golovkin and Thurman is something you are born with. You can improve technique and accuracy on pads and be more effective and time well to catch your opponent off guard. But power is not something you are born with cuz how come Timothy Bradley who fites at such an elite level not become a puncher? he ofcourse trains damn hard for guys like provodnikov yet he forgets to improve his power? that is if it can be taught cuz its not or even Paulie Malignaggi.

Just curious have you ever boxed?

I'm sure it's a combination of both. Tommy Hearns had like 2 KO's or some ridiculously low number throughout his entire amatuer career, but when he turned pro, as the story goes, Emmanuel taught him to throw to hurt - to turn the hand, put his body weight into it, etc.

[Box-Office]

How many boxers do you know of that do power training? Some boxers might be inclined to hit harder, but to suggest power is entirely genetic is kind of silly. Bradley's problem is he slaps with his punches and has terrible balance. Have you seen some of his overhand rights? I remember a sequence in the Pacquiao fight where he flurried with like six punches, and slapped with all of them. As for whether I've boxed, I'm training to and have sparred. I think a good example of somebody who developed power is Marquez. He developed one punch power after working with Heredia.

As i suggested in my previous post that you can "improve", but you can not become Golovkin or Keith Thurman ever. Marquez always had decent power to take a fiter "out" and Pacquiao walked in to that counter so it made it worse PLUS as u mentioned the work with heredia helped. But marquez is still no GGG or Maidana is he? He "improved" but he will never become a freakish puncher ppl avoid, because it is something you are born with.

So to conclude what im saying is yes you can power train, improve accuracy and technique and hit harder, but you cant ever become like GGG or Adonis Stevenson.

I totally respect that you are training and sparring. Glad to know cuz it definitely adds validity to your arguments as you have experience to back it up. Good Stuff!!

[ColdBlooded]

Thank you. I appreciate that.

[Box-Office]

I'm sure it's a combination of both. Tommy Hearns had like 2 KO's or some ridiculously low number throughout his entire amatuer career, but when he turned pro, as the story goes, Emmanuel taught him to throw to hurt - to turn the hand, put his body weight into it, etc.

In amateurs we dont "commit" to shots. All you do is ush ush 1s and 2s and move out. Thats why Khan is ridiculed and called an amateur cuz he still has that mentality. In pros you settle down with your feet and put every thing in to that shot and its a proper fite. So i think amateur to pro is an unfair comparison.

All that heavy bag work and other training that pros do accounts for something so yes you do "improve" especially Emanuel Steward who trains for KO, but the point im consistently suggesting in my posts is you can be accurate, improve technique, settle down and "improve" but that all will never make you GGG or Thurman. These guys come along once in a while and are God gifted.