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  • WesleySnipes
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    #61
    the irony...the people who wanna keep Floyd out this thread to keep it neutral (what is understandable) are the same that going into a normal Floyd thread and hating on him...they contradict themselves like their secret role model himself...Floyd (yeah that goes out to you Beercules & Bungalows)

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #62
      Originally posted by hugh grant
      Why are you obsessed with Raheem? Pac has beat better fighters than Raheem? Pac was generous in giving his beatings out to Barrera, and Morales.

      Floyd fights less, so he is giving less people a chance to beat him than Pac does. Is it too much to ask Floyd to fight as often as Pac and ko people for 7 years like Pac did?
      Floyd beats 10 loss Baldmoir, but not Kostya, margarita, Sergio who has been calling him out for ages. He didn't answer Paul Williams call.
      Why does it bother you that I correctly and accurately corrected the points in the article? Frankly, there was no need for you to respond other than the truth doesn't make Manny look as good so you want to mitigate it. That's sad.

      Raheem isn't a name but his style would've been a test,which is the same are you made about Paul Williams relative to Floyd.

      Manny didn't beat any of them at www either.

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      • junior gong
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        #63
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        Why does it bother you that I correctly and accurately corrected the points in the article? Frankly, there was no need for you to respond other than the truth doesn't make Manny look as good so you want to mitigate it. That's sad.

        Raheem isn't a name but his style would've been a test,which is the same are you made about Paul Williams relative to Floyd.

        Manny didn't beat any of them at www either.

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        • BUNGALOWS
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          #64
          Originally posted by Grimgash
          I agree with everything in it but one sentence. Which if you know my posts is the JMM All time Great thing. Otherwise Pac came in at a time when you had to build your brand yourself pretty much....and he overcame a lot and did it. My hat goes off to him because he really worked his way up and was one of the fighters that helped make little guys more well known outside of Asia at a time when everyone was big on the Heavyweights.

          I agree it shouldn't be a Manny-Floyd thing but it always is and I haven't read the other posts below yours yet but here's to hoping what you asked stays true...Pac earned his stripes and is a great fighter....that's all that needs to be said.
          Agree. JMM isn't an ATG, but he's still great in this generation.

          And I wish people wouldn't pollute this thread with Manny/Floyd BS.

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          • hugh grant
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            #65
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            the truth doesn't make Manny look as good so you want to mitigate it. That's sad.

            Raheem isn't a name but his style would've been a test,which is the same are you made about Paul Williams relative to Floyd.

            .
            You criticising Pac for not fighting Raheem still, and being contradictory, as it is easier to criticise Floyd, its not a surprise that's why so many people do criticise Floyd because Floyd makes it so easy, gives people ammuntion?

            And all you've got on Pac is why he didn't fight Raheem cos it was a bad style match up. Well so was JMM yet Pac gave JMM 4 times to win the lottery, so to talk about raheem is you trying to divert attention away from Floyd acting in the same manner as Pac but more often.

            Why don't Floyd fight Sergio and waits for Cotto to do it? Why does Floyd take on JMM when JMM calls him out, but not Sergio who has called him out plenty of times?
            I could go on an on criticising Floyd as he gives enough ammunition to destroy the world 3 times over, nuclear weapons haven't got anything on Floyud.
            Even Floyd has said no matter what he do, he will always be criticised. So even Floyd knows. So get off your high horse about Pac not fighting Raheem but fighting Morales instead.
            If I had a choice of having SRR or Randolph turpin on my resume it would be SRR everytime.
            Last edited by hugh grant; 01-16-2014, 05:09 AM.

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            • Konchi
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              #66
              nice thread

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              • imjustsaying
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                #67
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                What does srr have to do with this article or my post?

                Morales clearly wasn't a better fighter. Raheem. Beat him by a wide margin. His speed, size,and style were too much for erik.

                No matter how you spin it, manny chose to fight the slower plodder that beat erik but not the quicker boxer. Just like he fought the 5'11 plodder but not the 5'11 boxer because he was too tall.

                I just think the writer should be accurate.
                The Big Dunn...Zahir Raheem lost to Rocky Juarez, he lost to Acelino Freitas and he got knocked out by Ali Funeka.

                Manny Pacquiao beat so many fighters that are far greater than Zahir Raheem.

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                • waxfondler
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  Manny didn't beat morales until after raheem did. The writer should be accurate.

                  I expected manny to beatt zahir the same way floyd beat zab and baldomir. Not too much to ask and it would have negated any criticism.

                  manny fought diaz and margs and not zahir and yuri because he matcjes up well with them and not so well with the others. Admitting it isn't going to get you arrested.
                  i agree with your point on zahir (and im glad you admit pac wouldve beat him anyway), but yuri is a joke... arum was letting yuri keep his belt, he KNEW pac would destroy him... i honestly think team pac used the "too tall" excuse to simply dismiss this joke of a fight.... although yuri held a legit title, margs was a more dangerous fight... i think most fans were disgusted at the choice of margs, but the fight was fantastic for the bloodthirsty.
                  Last edited by waxfondler; 01-16-2014, 10:25 AM.

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by imjustsaying
                    The Big Dunn...Zahir Raheem lost to Rocky Juarez, he lost to Acelino Freitas and he got knocked out by Ali Funeka.

                    Manny Pacquiao beat so many fighters that are far greater than Zahir Raheem.
                    Triangle theories don't work as you know. He also beat Morales after he lost to Juarez. I agree manny beat bigger names then Zahir-but at the time Zahir had beaten a guy manny lost to. Usually in boxing that leads to a fight, ie floyd and baldomir.

                    Originally posted by waxfondler
                    i agree with your point on zahir (and im glad you admit pac wouldve beat him anyway), but yuri is a joke... arum was letting yuri keep his belt, he KNEW pac would destroy him... i honestly think team pac used the "too tall" excuse to simply dismiss this joke of a fight.... although yuri held a legit title, margs was a more dangerous fight... i think most fans were disgusted at the choice of margs, but the fight was fantastic for the bloodthirsty.
                    I don't doubt Manny has the power to beat Yuri, what he didn't have was the length. Yuri had the ability to box from a distance, Marg had no such chance. Zahir could box from a distance, DIaz had no such chance.

                    Dangerous, respectfully, isn't all that its about. Yuri and Zahir had styles that Manny has difficulty dealing with. They would also make Manny "find" them, as opposed to margs and diaz.

                    Margs and Diaz were better "Action" fights on paper, no question. But yuri and Zahir may have presented more of a challenge given how they fight.

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                    • -Makunouchi-
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                      #70
                      ****ing haters will pollute this thread coz they can't right the same accomplishments with the fighter they loved much.

                      Poor hypocrites just couldn't admire accomplishments coz of Envy.

                      All you ****ing *****e's right the same thing on your hero. Lets see if anyone can appreciate his cherry picking
                      Last edited by -Makunouchi-; 01-16-2014, 10:46 AM.

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