Comments Thread For: Mayweather To Arum: Why Do Business With a Coward?

[MamaHuevo]

floydds act is getting tiresome and sicknening !!!!! instead of ducking and doging manny why wont that punk fight him on may 5th !!!!!! the fans want it and boxing wants it !!!! but instead he will fight another taylor made fight like maidana !!!!!! mark my words !!!!!!!

Cause Pacduckiao got the April date smart guy the date was announced before he fought Rios. Mayweather has May 5 locked Uncle Bob knew I'm pretty sure Pac knew that yet they announced April 12 when Pac was goin to fight next. I guess some the majority of the posersddon't fully read the articles and come up with their own conclusion.... But its ok for Pac to fight Prov or a recycled Bradley or Marquez oh Ya those are better fights. Idiots

[The Raw Dog]

he sued him because floyd and his whole damn family tarnished HIS reputation by accusing him of being on steroids.

Manny reputation was not tarnished. Manny received numerous American endorsement deals, and was celebrated by the American media for quite some time at the expense of Floyd. The American media finally accepted Floyd's request of testing because look what happened in Baseball and Lance Armstrong. The mediator requests for negotiations, the $40 million dollar personal phone call, and yet people still act like Floyd owes Manny and his fans something…

[Sweden2716]

I like Manny the fighter better than Floyd the fighter but I understand why Floyd do not want to do business with Arum based on their history. The problem is that it is us the boxing fans that does not get the fight we want, that is a shame.

[Bigg Rigg]

Smh this guy is a straight up clown!

[LADIV]

asians should make some kind of special duck soup and call it floyd.
U wan wan bowl a floyd five dalla.

that was weak dude

[I Love Jesus!]

Floyd is like a baby throwing a temper tantrum making any excuse he can think of to avoid the fight because he knows its on the table now with the higher ups. This dude is a mamas boy and clearly wants nothing to do with the fight. He only wants lame opponents right now

[I Love Jesus!]

Just wondering out loud here .... But, how many of these keyboard warriors and internet tough-guys slinging the term "Coward" around, have actually been in a boxing ring or at the very least laced up a pair of gloves.

Gotta love the internet, where everyone's a tough-guy

most of us here were at least amatuer boxers. I have to assume people who post here are involved with the sport.

[toyboy33]

Floyd went hard in the paint on Manny and Arum. You can feel the disdain in his words about them.

[I Love Jesus!]

Well, when it is a GBP fighter, it isn't just a co-promotion flat fee. That is Schaefer and Haymon that hash that out, and don't think for a second Schaefer just sits back and lets Haymon make all the decisions. Schaefer is the snake of all snakes. This dude makes Arum look like The ****** de Guadalupe.

But I get where you are coming from on the being ripped off in the past. But Floyd has never really shared that experience. Arum has talked about it quite a bit and always described a very respectful working relationship with Floyd. I don't think anyone disagrees that Floyd made the right decision to get away from Arum, but don't let his bit talk fool you. That dude doesn't manage his own career. You see the way he blows through money? And lets not forget, three years ago it was HIM that had Uncle Sam tickling at his back door waiting to knock a shot off. He was in big tax trouble and he couldn't blame that on Arum.

No, his career is managed by Al Haymon and Leonard Ellerbe, both are well educated and stick VERY strictly to their gameplan for making Floyd the success that he is. They may say Floyd calls the shots but that's because they need to keep that dude happy... and Floyd is happy only when Floyd feels he's in charge. But SOMEONE behind the scenes... someone powerful... does not want this fight. I've heard many rumors that it was actually Floyd Sr. that put the bug in Jr.'s ear.

pretty sure sr is on record saying pac is all wrong for floyd.

[radioraheem]

Well, when it is a GBP fighter, it isn't just a co-promotion flat fee. That is Schaefer and Haymon that hash that out, and don't think for a second Schaefer just sits back and lets Haymon make all the decisions. Schaefer is the snake of all snakes. This dude makes Arum look like The ****** de Guadalupe.

But I get where you are coming from on the being ripped off in the past. But Floyd has never really shared that experience. Arum has talked about it quite a bit and always described a very respectful working relationship with Floyd. I don't think anyone disagrees that Floyd made the right decision to get away from Arum, but don't let his bit talk fool you. That dude doesn't manage his own career. You see the way he blows through money? And lets not forget, three years ago it was HIM that had Uncle Sam tickling at his back door waiting to knock a shot off. He was in big tax trouble and he couldn't blame that on Arum.

No, his career is managed by Al Haymon and Leonard Ellerbe, both are well educated and stick VERY strictly to their gameplan for making Floyd the success that he is. They may say Floyd calls the shots but that's because they need to keep that dude happy... and Floyd is happy only when Floyd feels he's in charge. But SOMEONE behind the scenes... someone powerful... does not want this fight. I've heard many rumors that it was actually Floyd Sr. that put the bug in Jr.'s ear.

Even when it's a Golden Boy fighter he's up against -- it was a flat fee. Floyd Mayweather was responsible for cutting the check to his opponent, not Golden Boy. Again, that is why if a natural disaster happened, he would potentially lose tens of millions of dollars, because most of the marketing and even the fight purse was coming out of his pocket. But the ROI is so huge, it's worth it despite the risk. This was during the HBO days though. Not sure about the details of the Showtime deal.

Floyd hasn't shared that experience of being ripped off in the past? And not by Bob Arum? I don't think there is an elite fighter that Arum didn't play financially. He's also gone on record to say that Haymon and Ellerbe manages his career business-wise. But he obviously still has a say because at the end of the day -- he is the prize fighter. Not Haymon, not Ellerbe. And for this same reason, that's why you saw 50 Cent having letters sent to try and persuade Floyd to get rid of Haymon. Haymon can't fire Floyd, but Floyd can fire Haymon.

I feel the same about Pacquaio. People kinda think Arum, Konz, Roach, are more powerful over Pacquaio than Pacquaio himself. But really, Pacquaio has more power than all of them. It's just a matter of him using that power or realizing it.